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Corey Knowles

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think you really have to embrace AI in the sense that I think if you're kind of just, you know, hiding in your cave and you're like, I don't care about AI, they're going to come find you sooner or later.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So you might as well embrace it, I think.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And I think the best way to embrace it is in a safer guardrails-driven manner, if you will, rather than a, let's vibe code and see what happens and let's give everyone access to our production databases, because if we ruin that, your production database is probably going to get dropped by Replit if that happens.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I would say that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think you have to embrace it because if you don't embrace it, stuff like that's going to happen.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

But by you leading the charge, it can be a lot safer, if you will.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah, I'll just have one thing that I'll think a little bit more, but the one that comes to mind is I think what Mike Maple said, which is agency.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And specifically, I think especially because today, at least AI and LMS are low agency, you know, like we talked about chat, like it doesn't do anything for you.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

You have to ask them to do something.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

those that have high agency have more of an edge because they can leverage, you know, something low agency, you know, and they can push it more if that makes sense.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

That was a key one.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And when I look at some of our customers that, again, that have had the most success in their company, the ones that have gotten promoted multiple times in multiple years, it is, I would characterize it as agency or curiosity maybe is another one, sort of this embracing of what's next.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So it's, you know, I would argue that is the probably number one quality.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think maybe a number two is around some level of technical proficiency.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Because I do think that some level is required.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Like if you don't know what a database is, if you don't know what an API is, if you can't think of data in like a row by column basis or level, I think that you might get left behind, honestly.