Corey Knowles

So I think some baseline level of technical proficiency

But again, I think Excel is kind of the limit.

You don't need to be much more technical than that.

So maybe those are the two qualities of agency plus baseline technical effectiveness.

Yeah, I think as technologists, it's changing very rapidly today, I would say.

And so the faster the world moves, the more of an edge learning fast is.

And so the faster you, yeah.

So I think it's a, yeah, there's more of a premium, if you will, for that today.

Wow.

You have to respond quickly.

I don't think we identify as that.

And I think actually most of the perceptions are kind of true, honestly.

That's fair.

It's kind of old, kind of stodgy.

I think a lot of them build their own ecosystems that are not very effective because they're not state-of-the-art, so...

Yeah, honestly, not a fan.

I actually would not call them low-code.

And the reason is, I think they share some similarities, but they're also still writing code.

This is too specific, but this is how I, as an engineer, think about it.

The reason why engineers hate low-code tools is because they don't use standard technologies.