Corey Shockey

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It's a petulant reaction by the Secretary of Defense that's likely to turn out to be advantageous to Anthropic, but it's going to be bad for the Defense Department and bad for the security of the United States.

idea that you could either nationalize or blacklist a leading American company is outrageous and it's going to discourage other leading edge tech firms from being willing to expose their business by participating in the defense ecosystem.

Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

I mean, this is a frontier technology that we are still understanding what its consequences are going to be.

And to suggest that we have less transparency or that a firm has no right to set standards on how a cutting edge technology will be utilized by the Defense Department, I think is probably a losing proposition for DOD.

Well, Congress really runs defense policy, and they can legislate in this space, and DOD will be required to be compliant with it.

It's actually shocking to think that the Defense Department blacklisted an American company.

That's the kind of thing we do to Chinese firms, not to patriotic American firms who are already participating in classified DOD activity.

Well, it's an open question, but I do think that open AI is saying, yes, we trust the government that they won't use our product in a way they say they won't.

And Anthropic is saying, we actually need proof and we need indemnification that our product is being used as we are advertising our product.

I think given the low level of trust in the Trump Department of Defense,

This is likely to be advantageous marketing for Anthropic, and very difficult for DoD to be able to say, you need to trust that we will abide by the law when so much of their behavior, including blacklisting an American company, looks to be a bending of the law, or at least an aggressive and predatory use of the law.

Yes.

What AI is already proving incredibly valuable for in the defense space is surveying enormous amounts of data and, for example, identifying threat portfolios, you know, the ability to see patterns in large amounts of data.

But what

Anthropic is saying is we do not want it to be used for domestic surveillance of the US or for decisions about the use of lethal force before we have higher confidence in the model.

And those are not unreasonable standards.

and provide the basis for what Congress perhaps ought to put into law until we have better transparency and better understanding of what these models are capable of in future iterations.