Cormac

Because you said debt collector.

Are you up to your neck in loans?

It's not fair to that kid the way you're carrying on.

I don't know where you pulled those stories about Dad from, but he never did anything to me or Aoife.

And I don't know why you waited so long to say anything.

When Mam was old, and the shock and all.

Why didn't you say anything back then?

Yes, well, well, you should have said it louder.

I suppose what we've done over the years is we've built up trust between us and the players.

They know we're not out to get a scoop.

We're just literally there to tell their story.

That's the most important thing.

We're all sports fans.

We want to go on that little bit of a journey with them again.

It's amazing just to sit there in front of, like, Cicero or Conor and Macquarie and just hear their stories.

And sometimes it's stuff that you can't, we can't get everything on screen, but even just to have the time to sit with them is brilliant.

We're very looking for it.

Well, first of all, you have to be very upfront with them, you know, from the get-go, from the very start.

When you make the first phone call, you tell them that, like, look, we're talking about your sporting career, the highs and lows of that, but also, you know, the journey off the field to get there, to get to those points.

And he was very powerful, straight up, very upfront about it.