Cory Doctorow

My pleasure.

Thank you for having me on.

No, it's both less exciting and sort of more contingent than that.

So I work for a nonprofit called the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

We're sort of the leading digital rights group in the world.

And I've been there for 25 years.

And getting people to care about digital rights, it's hard, right?

Because you're asking them to care about things that are abstract and far in the future and technical.

you know, you can just like wait until their lives have been destroyed by technology and then they'll care about it.

But you'd ideally like to raise the salience while there's still time to do something about it.

Right.

So I have just spent a couple of decades coming up with words and concepts and framing devices and metaphors and similes and whatever.

And in this case, I was on vacation with my family in Puerto Rico and we had rented a little cabin in a cloud forest and it was serviced in probably by microwave, uh,

internet.

And one of the reasons that's improbable is that if you know one thing about microwave internet, the one thing everyone knows is that it doesn't go through clouds.

And I remind you, we were in a cloud forest.

And so before we would drive down into town, which was a couple hours away, there are a couple little towns we could go.

We try and look up on TripAdvisor which restaurant to go to, whether it was open, that kind of thing.

And you'd load like 20 TripAdvisor tabs, and they just time out because there's like 75 trackers on TripAdvisor, and it would load about 40 of them and then just die.

And the only thing in the window would be what's called the favico.