Courtney Swan

They're not eating species-appropriate diets, so they're being fed GMO corn and soy.

They should be eating grass.

Exactly.

And that was one of the other points that I made in the Chobani creamer video is that you're also getting it from conventional dairy.

So yeah, it's loaded with growth hormones.

Yeah.

And look, I will say I have so much sympathy because I get it.

The only reason that I feel like I know how to navigate this better now is because I've been studying this for 20 years.

So I have a lot of sympathy.

Exactly.

And they have kids and they're busy.

And I completely get it.

This is something that I majored in.

and I'm incredibly passionate about.

So I try to make it as simple and easy for people as possible.

But what you really want to look for is things that are just really simple ingredients.

And one of the things, I mentioned yogurts.

Look at the sugar.

I always tell people, before you even look at the calories or anything else, number one thing when you turn around a package, by the way, never believe what it says on the front.

I always say that is their billboard.