Craig Hutchison

And his treatment's part of it.

And his own positioning within that storyline now, and we discussed this some weeks ago on Anzac Day, the positioning of himself at the Anzac Day marches and the preparedness to stand at those ceremonies and talk to media defiantly.

What about being in the Broncos' rooms last weekend?

I didn't even catch that.

As an accused – Didn't even catch that.

On trial for –

He's on trial and he's in the rooms.

Imagine that in the AFL world.

Imagine how big a story that would be in AFL.

The fact that I wasn't even across that, that just happened and no one really... Well, it's been opinions about it in the NRL, but not to the degree that it would be in the AFL.

So I think it'll become an even bigger story because there is an army of people

as vehemently in defence of him now as there is those against.

And the political wins are part of that.

Pauline Hanson, for instance, has hitched her wagon to the way he's been treated.

Just all of that, and again, right off this topic now, but the polls to which you refer when it comes to One Nation and obviously what's going on here in Victoria, and again, they're poll-driven narratives now about there being a backlash and a turn against the incumbents.

I don't fully trust polls, Hutchie.

When I say trust polls, I don't naturally read those stories and think this is how it's going to play out at election.

Well, you can't deny the one nation impact on Australian politics right now.

Well, you can deny it until it's actually franked in an election result.

Well, I mean, Pauline's not going to be the prime minister because she's ineligible to be the prime minister in the house that she sits in.