Craig Hutchison

But how many seats will she actually get?

Well, it's going to shape everything.

enormously what happens.

Well, everyone's too scared to then have the preferences attached to One Nation, aren't they?

From the optics perspective.

Are they or were they?

Well, I think last time I checked, they're both on record saying we won't go near them.

I don't know anything about politics, but I know this, that party is very real and having been majorly underestimated by both political parties.

And is a, is a, is a lightning rod of the anger and unease in Australian life right now.

And we are in the middle of a Trump style movement, whether we choose to look out the window or not.

I'm not sure, but that's what's going on.

Yeah, well, I mean, you don't, as a rule, get too political.

And you're not being political here.

You're just reflecting the politics.

But you are out in the country.

I'm saying I'm looking at the scoreboard and believing what it's telling me.

Yeah.

You're cynical about the scoreboard.

I am cynical because if you attach and draw a line of command from a lot of these poll groups, and there's a lot of them out there, Archie.

They're aligned to political parties.