Craig Mazin

And I would stare at these I'm always thinking about how almost everyone in the apocalypse that we meet is doing something extraordinary. If they're not, we probably won't meet them. But they didn't start extraordinary. So even when we think about David in season one, the leader of the cannibal cult, he lets Ellie know that he used to be a teacher. It was an incredibly mundane thing.

And I would stare at these I'm always thinking about how almost everyone in the apocalypse that we meet is doing something extraordinary. If they're not, we probably won't meet them. But they didn't start extraordinary. So even when we think about David in season one, the leader of the cannibal cult, he lets Ellie know that he used to be a teacher. It was an incredibly mundane thing.

He was a teacher. Everybody was kind of okay. And then the world collapses. And... There is something that is both revealing about Isaac here. It's a little bit of his story of before all this. We don't necessarily know what he did for a living, but we understand, you know, he liked to date. This is how he would attract women, you know, he would cook for them.

He was a teacher. Everybody was kind of okay. And then the world collapses. And... There is something that is both revealing about Isaac here. It's a little bit of his story of before all this. We don't necessarily know what he did for a living, but we understand, you know, he liked to date. This is how he would attract women, you know, he would cook for them.

But it becomes pretty clear that this is not the first time he's told this story. And that there's a purpose behind it. And the purpose is to intimidate, is to intimidate somebody because Isaac gets to relax and tell a story while somebody else is in chains bleeding.

But it becomes pretty clear that this is not the first time he's told this story. And that there's a purpose behind it. And the purpose is to intimidate, is to intimidate somebody because Isaac gets to relax and tell a story while somebody else is in chains bleeding.

Yeah, and then Isaac understands it's pointless to continue any further. This one is just way too devoted to the cause. There's another piece of information we get from Isaac that is interesting, I think, here. Because when we first met the Seraphites in our third episode, we meet them through a father and a daughter. They seem peaceful. The daughter asks, why can't she keep us safe, the prophet?

Yeah, and then Isaac understands it's pointless to continue any further. This one is just way too devoted to the cause. There's another piece of information we get from Isaac that is interesting, I think, here. Because when we first met the Seraphites in our third episode, we meet them through a father and a daughter. They seem peaceful. The daughter asks, why can't she keep us safe, the prophet?

She says, Ezra says the prophet is eternal and moves through the sky. Whoever Ezra is her friend. And her dad's like, no, prophets are just people. Well, here, Isaac says something to this kid. He says, you know, some of you know that she's not some magic fairy in the sky. Some of you know she was just a person.

She says, Ezra says the prophet is eternal and moves through the sky. Whoever Ezra is her friend. And her dad's like, no, prophets are just people. Well, here, Isaac says something to this kid. He says, you know, some of you know that she's not some magic fairy in the sky. Some of you know she was just a person.

And this beaten young man, who has every reason to not argue, argues and says, heretics. So we understand not only is there the WLF, and the Seraphites, there's a schism inside the Seraphites themselves. There are some of these people who are perhaps a bit more secular and then some who are really, really fanatical.

And this beaten young man, who has every reason to not argue, argues and says, heretics. So we understand not only is there the WLF, and the Seraphites, there's a schism inside the Seraphites themselves. There are some of these people who are perhaps a bit more secular and then some who are really, really fanatical.

And what we have not yet seen is any evidence that the Seraphites are anything but victims. That, of course, will change.

And what we have not yet seen is any evidence that the Seraphites are anything but victims. That, of course, will change.

There is something that is inside Ellie that almost feels like Joel is a prophet. And we see this in drama all the time, going all the way back to the Greeks, where you'd have the chorus that was kind of hanging out behind you. And George Lucas has, you know, Obi-Wan Kenobi showing up as a force ghost. What does he say? He says, if you strike me down, I'll be more powerful than ever.

There is something that is inside Ellie that almost feels like Joel is a prophet. And we see this in drama all the time, going all the way back to the Greeks, where you'd have the chorus that was kind of hanging out behind you. And George Lucas has, you know, Obi-Wan Kenobi showing up as a force ghost. What does he say? He says, if you strike me down, I'll be more powerful than ever.

So Joel has been struck down, and yet he does hover over Ellie like a force ghost, like a prophet, like somebody that needs to be followed and pursued and then justified through her actions. And this young man is pursuing this other ghost out there and the prophet. And the question is, what is Isaac pursuing? And these questions about this war... may not be fully answered this season.

So Joel has been struck down, and yet he does hover over Ellie like a force ghost, like a prophet, like somebody that needs to be followed and pursued and then justified through her actions. And this young man is pursuing this other ghost out there and the prophet. And the question is, what is Isaac pursuing? And these questions about this war... may not be fully answered this season.

There will be some mysteries.

There will be some mysteries.