Craig Mazin

That's the thing. We just didn't know if we were getting canceled, guys. We will absolutely find out exactly what they're about, exactly what he wants, which is the most important thing to understand about characters. But there will be some mystery to sit with for a while.

That's the thing. We just didn't know if we were getting canceled, guys. We will absolutely find out exactly what they're about, exactly what he wants, which is the most important thing to understand about characters. But there will be some mystery to sit with for a while.

This was a kid who theoretically was nice and not on any side and wasn't with these brutal guys. And now here he is as a soldier fully dehumanizing them. So the idea of community is something that calcifies and turns us against each other is in full effect here. And it's also... A quiet condemnation of whatever has happened to Isaac over these years.

This was a kid who theoretically was nice and not on any side and wasn't with these brutal guys. And now here he is as a soldier fully dehumanizing them. So the idea of community is something that calcifies and turns us against each other is in full effect here. And it's also... A quiet condemnation of whatever has happened to Isaac over these years.

Because even though we meet him committing violence, we kind of get it. I mean, these guys are brutal. They're literally making fun of brutalizing people. And now here he is and the people that follow him seem pretty brutal and he's torturing people.

Because even though we meet him committing violence, we kind of get it. I mean, these guys are brutal. They're literally making fun of brutalizing people. And now here he is and the people that follow him seem pretty brutal and he's torturing people.

So there will be a time, I can't promise it will be this season, but there will be a time where we will get to find out just how all of this came to be.

So there will be a time, I can't promise it will be this season, but there will be a time where we will get to find out just how all of this came to be.

That was impossible with this season. No, no. No, no, no. You got to write with confidence. I mean, if you write defensively, just in case we get canceled, you're going to mess your season up. I can't imagine the guys who are in the Severance writing room going, just in case we get canceled, we should probably explain what the hell is going on here.

That was impossible with this season. No, no. No, no, no. You got to write with confidence. I mean, if you write defensively, just in case we get canceled, you're going to mess your season up. I can't imagine the guys who are in the Severance writing room going, just in case we get canceled, we should probably explain what the hell is going on here.

So, I mean, you get some answers and then there are a whole bunch of mysteries that get left. That's the way it ought to be.

So, I mean, you get some answers and then there are a whole bunch of mysteries that get left. That's the way it ought to be.

No.

No.

Yes. Well, I mean, I do love the unraveling. I love a reveal. I mean, every magician should love... the moment where you do take that card that they picked and reveal that it was in their back pocket. You know, somehow you forced it there. But the only way to get to the reveal is through very careful setup. So setup is math. Setup is science. And reveal is music.

Yes. Well, I mean, I do love the unraveling. I love a reveal. I mean, every magician should love... the moment where you do take that card that they picked and reveal that it was in their back pocket. You know, somehow you forced it there. But the only way to get to the reveal is through very careful setup. So setup is math. Setup is science. And reveal is music.

And so, of course, I look forward to the music part. That's always the most fun.

And so, of course, I look forward to the music part. That's always the most fun.

Yeah. This section, in my mind, is one of the most true to the game sections. All of this stuff is pulled from the source material. All of it. The fact that we had The Last of Us Part II game available when we made the first season is why we put... Ellie talking about Sally Ride and going to the moon in the first season because we understood that this was some place to go.

Yeah. This section, in my mind, is one of the most true to the game sections. All of this stuff is pulled from the source material. All of it. The fact that we had The Last of Us Part II game available when we made the first season is why we put... Ellie talking about Sally Ride and going to the moon in the first season because we understood that this was some place to go.