Craig Mazin

I don't think Dina is even considering that it would just be her and Ellie yet. I think Dina thinks it's going to be me and you and 12 other people. And we're going out with horses and guns and overwhelming force to track them down and kill them. That is the smart thing to do. That should be plan A. And it is plan A.

I don't think Dina is even considering that it would just be her and Ellie yet. I think Dina thinks it's going to be me and you and 12 other people. And we're going out with horses and guns and overwhelming force to track them down and kill them. That is the smart thing to do. That should be plan A. And it is plan A.

We wanted to be true to the story we had created inside of Jackson. So in the game, in the first game, you never get inside of Jackson. But in our first season, we did. And part of getting inside of Jackson was understanding its mechanics. There is a council. It is democratically elected. They make decisions as a community. There is law. Maria was a district attorney.

We wanted to be true to the story we had created inside of Jackson. So in the game, in the first game, you never get inside of Jackson. But in our first season, we did. And part of getting inside of Jackson was understanding its mechanics. There is a council. It is democratically elected. They make decisions as a community. There is law. Maria was a district attorney.

So law and democracy and order are how Jackson functions. And it was incredibly important to say, hey, even though we were attacked, what are we doing? We're repairing the fence. We're making it stronger. And we are recommitting to our ideals that we talk about these things together as a community. And that means Ellie has a chance. to make her case, which is very perilous for Ellie.

So law and democracy and order are how Jackson functions. And it was incredibly important to say, hey, even though we were attacked, what are we doing? We're repairing the fence. We're making it stronger. And we are recommitting to our ideals that we talk about these things together as a community. And that means Ellie has a chance. to make her case, which is very perilous for Ellie.

Because as Jesse understands, her case is going to be, what is wrong with all of you? Why aren't we already on horses going? That's her impulse. And what's fascinating here, and I love watching Bella's reaction, is that Seth, who has a dark side, clearly, who when drunk, lets out some pretty ugly stuff,

Because as Jesse understands, her case is going to be, what is wrong with all of you? Why aren't we already on horses going? That's her impulse. And what's fascinating here, and I love watching Bella's reaction, is that Seth, who has a dark side, clearly, who when drunk, lets out some pretty ugly stuff,

Sober is articulating exactly how Ellie feels, which is a very uncomfortable thing for her because she doesn't like him. And this happens sometimes in life where somebody who we think is the opposite of us suddenly becomes a mirror of us It makes us question those instincts.

Sober is articulating exactly how Ellie feels, which is a very uncomfortable thing for her because she doesn't like him. And this happens sometimes in life where somebody who we think is the opposite of us suddenly becomes a mirror of us It makes us question those instincts.

Yeah, I completely agree. I think he's being a good friend to her there. And she does her best. This was a very difficult writing challenge and a very difficult acting challenge for me and for Bella. Write a speech that is pretty good, but not honest, not true to yourself. So there's something synthetic about it.

Yeah, I completely agree. I think he's being a good friend to her there. And she does her best. This was a very difficult writing challenge and a very difficult acting challenge for me and for Bella. Write a speech that is pretty good, but not honest, not true to yourself. So there's something synthetic about it.

And then perform it in a way where you're trying to convince people it's honest, but it's a little off.

And then perform it in a way where you're trying to convince people it's honest, but it's a little off.

There's this beautiful moment where we see Gail all the way up there on the balcony level listening to this. Everyone is listening so respectfully. And she's like, oh, please. She knows exactly that this is... a kind of calculation on Ellie's part to try and get people to do the thing that she wants to do out of pure anger. And it doesn't work.

There's this beautiful moment where we see Gail all the way up there on the balcony level listening to this. Everyone is listening so respectfully. And she's like, oh, please. She knows exactly that this is... a kind of calculation on Ellie's part to try and get people to do the thing that she wants to do out of pure anger. And it doesn't work.

Not only does it not work, but the vote isn't really close, which is important. It wasn't like, okay, I can go back and just convince one person. It's not happening. They're not going for it. And if you were running Jackson, you'd probably vote no too.

Not only does it not work, but the vote isn't really close, which is important. It wasn't like, okay, I can go back and just convince one person. It's not happening. They're not going for it. And if you were running Jackson, you'd probably vote no too.

He's part of rebuilding it. He's there hammering stakes in the ground. And he does articulate Joel's point of view, which is that vengeance is second place. But he also says to Ellie, I got you. I'll back you. Of course I've got you. Because I'm theoretically the only family you have left.

He's part of rebuilding it. He's there hammering stakes in the ground. And he does articulate Joel's point of view, which is that vengeance is second place. But he also says to Ellie, I got you. I'll back you. Of course I've got you. Because I'm theoretically the only family you have left.