Craig Mazin

The idea of lying or obscuring or holding back or concealing, even in a session with a therapist, a job that would be extraordinarily useful in a barter system in the post-apocalypse where everyone has suffered, everyone has been traumatized. And Gail is not just a therapist. She's good. She's really smart.

The idea of lying or obscuring or holding back or concealing, even in a session with a therapist, a job that would be extraordinarily useful in a barter system in the post-apocalypse where everyone has suffered, everyone has been traumatized. And Gail is not just a therapist. She's good. She's really smart.

And she's also brave because she's doing something in the scene that is scary, in part because she needs to, because she herself has been traumatized, and in part because she needs to demonstrate by example.

And she's also brave because she's doing something in the scene that is scary, in part because she needs to, because she herself has been traumatized, and in part because she needs to demonstrate by example.

Joel's emotions are connected to Ellie. What he is struggling with is the fact that she's pulling away from him. And he doesn't, or at least he claims to not know why. And we can see this. I mean, part of this episode is a little bit of a mystery. What is going on with the two of them? Right. Exactly. Because it's bad. And he's struggling with it, he's asking Dina, he's asking his therapist.

Joel's emotions are connected to Ellie. What he is struggling with is the fact that she's pulling away from him. And he doesn't, or at least he claims to not know why. And we can see this. I mean, part of this episode is a little bit of a mystery. What is going on with the two of them? Right. Exactly. Because it's bad. And he's struggling with it, he's asking Dina, he's asking his therapist.

What he's terrified of is that the rift is because she knows or has figured out what he did. But when you see him stand up and say, I saved her, what's clear is he has no regrets about what he did.

What he's terrified of is that the rift is because she knows or has figured out what he did. But when you see him stand up and say, I saved her, what's clear is he has no regrets about what he did.

Pedro... has these almost invisible changes and choices that because they're almost invisible, they're extraordinarily visible. The way he goes from guilt to resolution in a moment. The way he goes from, I'm trapped and I'm like a little child who has to face up to what I've done to... I am indomitable and I'm leaving is remarkable.

Pedro... has these almost invisible changes and choices that because they're almost invisible, they're extraordinarily visible. The way he goes from guilt to resolution in a moment. The way he goes from, I'm trapped and I'm like a little child who has to face up to what I've done to... I am indomitable and I'm leaving is remarkable.

And sometimes when I'm directing and I have a situation like that, where I've just got two great actors facing off, it's like an action scene as far as I'm concerned. Emotional action scene. An emotional action scene, I always say it's like driving a Ferrari. I mean...

And sometimes when I'm directing and I have a situation like that, where I've just got two great actors facing off, it's like an action scene as far as I'm concerned. Emotional action scene. An emotional action scene, I always say it's like driving a Ferrari. I mean...

I come in there and I mostly just clarify some subtext things that might, you know, not popped out and then I get the hell out of the way.

I come in there and I mostly just clarify some subtext things that might, you know, not popped out and then I get the hell out of the way.

Things have happened between Joel and Ellie walking down the mountain towards Jackson at the end of season one and where we are now. A lot of things have happened. There are ghosts of mistakes in history past that we are going to unfold and we are going to discover. But where we are here... is heartbreaking because that guitar clearly means something.

Things have happened between Joel and Ellie walking down the mountain towards Jackson at the end of season one and where we are now. A lot of things have happened. There are ghosts of mistakes in history past that we are going to unfold and we are going to discover. But where we are here... is heartbreaking because that guitar clearly means something.

And the way it's on the floor, I can't tell you how much time I spent adjusting the clothing and the angle of the guitar and where the guitar would be and how it would be lying there and how much dust would be on it. It's a carelessness. It is a discarding of something that sticks in Joel's chest like a knife. And he does his very best to not explode or do anything.

And the way it's on the floor, I can't tell you how much time I spent adjusting the clothing and the angle of the guitar and where the guitar would be and how it would be lying there and how much dust would be on it. It's a carelessness. It is a discarding of something that sticks in Joel's chest like a knife. And he does his very best to not explode or do anything.

He just walks over, shoves all of his feelings down into a little ball, tells her she'll get it back the next day, he's gonna put some new strings on it, pretends that he's just caring for the guitar. She knows, she knows. The second he sees it there, she knows. that she's blown it and also seemingly doesn't care. That's the depth of what's going on here.

He just walks over, shoves all of his feelings down into a little ball, tells her she'll get it back the next day, he's gonna put some new strings on it, pretends that he's just caring for the guitar. She knows, she knows. The second he sees it there, she knows. that she's blown it and also seemingly doesn't care. That's the depth of what's going on here.