Craig Robinson

It's one thing to be hashtag relationship goals, but it's another to tell the truth about what it takes.

And I tend to do that when I talk about the challenges of marriage and that it's not all that.

It's like, I love my husband.

I like my husband.

But

We also want to be a part of helping couples understand that it does take work and it is hard, even in the best marriages.

Can you talk a little bit more about that?

Knowing that this is a safe space of not judgment, everybody understands humility and blessings, but it takes work.

And so you don't want to give up on something when it starts to get hard in the way that it's naturally going to be.

Let's talk about how you're raising the kids, you know, the values, how you're thinking about what kind of people you want them to be.

Are you parenting the girls differently?

And the boys are babies.

Are you scared of her yet?

Is she scaring you?

Yeah, I am.

It gets—because sometimes—well, Barack got scared, you know.

He got scared off.

Sasha, the feisty one, was very scary to her father.

You know, that's, it means something to, at all these stages, to, you know, just have these honest conversations where your kids can, they can disagree with you.

They can point out stuff because it's like, I think that gave me,