Curtis Yarvin

There's there's something deeply illusory about that sense of mattering that sort of goes up against the very, very important question of we need a government that is actually good and that actually works and we don't have one.

There's there's something deeply illusory about that sense of mattering that sort of goes up against the very, very important question of we need a government that is actually good and that actually works and we don't have one.

It's not a simplistic way of thinking and having worked inside the kind of salt mines where CEOs do their CEOing business and having been a CEO myself, I think I have a better sense of it maybe unfortunately than most people. Last time we spoke, I used the example of imagine if your MacBook had to be made by the California Department of Computing or if your electric car had to be made by the U.S.

It's not a simplistic way of thinking and having worked inside the kind of salt mines where CEOs do their CEOing business and having been a CEO myself, I think I have a better sense of it maybe unfortunately than most people. Last time we spoke, I used the example of imagine if your MacBook had to be made by the California Department of Computing or if your electric car had to be made by the U.S.

Department of Transportation.

Department of Transportation.

Well, they live in a governed society. And so the thing is, basically, when libertarians talk about Apple and Tesla, they're saying, okay, here are the benefits of freedom, etc., etc., etc. That's sort of true in a sense, but the benefit of freedom is that these organizations have used freedom to establish monarchies, which are completely top-down command units.

Well, they live in a governed society. And so the thing is, basically, when libertarians talk about Apple and Tesla, they're saying, okay, here are the benefits of freedom, etc., etc., etc. That's sort of true in a sense, but the benefit of freedom is that these organizations have used freedom to establish monarchies, which are completely top-down command units.

And so when I basically look at systems run by CEOs, I'm just like, basically, I think that if you took any of the Fortune 500 CEOs, some of them are good, some of them are bad, but the overall quality, you know, just pick one at random and... And put him or her in charge of Washington. And I think you'd get something much, much better than what's there. It doesn't have to be Elon Musk.

And so when I basically look at systems run by CEOs, I'm just like, basically, I think that if you took any of the Fortune 500 CEOs, some of them are good, some of them are bad, but the overall quality, you know, just pick one at random and... And put him or her in charge of Washington. And I think you'd get something much, much better than what's there. It doesn't have to be Elon Musk.

The like median performance is so much better. But you asked something that I think is a more important and more interesting question, which is. You know, you're like, OK, America needs a CEO who will be economically efficient. The CEO who will be economically efficient will think of human beings as pure economic units and will do things like.

The like median performance is so much better. But you asked something that I think is a more important and more interesting question, which is. You know, you're like, OK, America needs a CEO who will be economically efficient. The CEO who will be economically efficient will think of human beings as pure economic units and will do things like.

Perfect, perfect question. The thing is, normally we think of the goal of a company as making a profit or just selling more stuff, but that's not actually really the goal of a company. The real goal of a company is to maximize the worth of its assets to make the stock price go up.

Perfect, perfect question. The thing is, normally we think of the goal of a company as making a profit or just selling more stuff, but that's not actually really the goal of a company. The real goal of a company is to maximize the worth of its assets to make the stock price go up.

basically like one of the ways to kind of unify the worldview of, say, Charles I and Elon Musk is to realize that when Charles I is thinking about his people, he is both thinking of them as economic assets and as human assets. He basically wants to see his country thrive and

basically like one of the ways to kind of unify the worldview of, say, Charles I and Elon Musk is to realize that when Charles I is thinking about his people, he is both thinking of them as economic assets and as human assets. He basically wants to see his country thrive and

And in order to see his country thrive, he wants people to be, of course, he wants them to be producing as much wool or whatever England exports as possible. But the sense of him being kind of the pater patriae, kind of the father of the country, and sort of feeling about...

And in order to see his country thrive, he wants people to be, of course, he wants them to be producing as much wool or whatever England exports as possible. But the sense of him being kind of the pater patriae, kind of the father of the country, and sort of feeling about...

the people in his society, not exactly the way a parent should feel about his children, but sort of like the way a parent should feel about his children, that sense of like having a reciprocal obligation. So my goal as a CEO is not to rake in the bucks, but to make my operation flourish.

the people in his society, not exactly the way a parent should feel about his children, but sort of like the way a parent should feel about his children, that sense of like having a reciprocal obligation. So my goal as a CEO is not to rake in the bucks, but to make my operation flourish.