Curtis Yarvin
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I would say that the incoming Trump administration, you know, with all due respect, and there's a lot of great people there and people who are working extremely hard, Unfortunately, I would say that they're essentially finding themselves in a position where they're trying to untangle the Gordian knot. Meaning what? Meaning that they're basically trying to, let's take just NASA in specific.
I would say that the incoming Trump administration, you know, with all due respect, and there's a lot of great people there and people who are working extremely hard, Unfortunately, I would say that they're essentially finding themselves in a position where they're trying to untangle the Gordian knot. Meaning what? Meaning that they're basically trying to, let's take just NASA in specific.
So, for example, if you compare NASA to SpaceX, you know, that's a fine example of actually all of the principles that I've been describing because NASA was once as efficient as SpaceX ever. So if you basically say, okay, at a very abstract level, forget the rest of the government. Elon, go and fix NASA. The goal of NASA is to give us cool space shit.
So, for example, if you compare NASA to SpaceX, you know, that's a fine example of actually all of the principles that I've been describing because NASA was once as efficient as SpaceX ever. So if you basically say, okay, at a very abstract level, forget the rest of the government. Elon, go and fix NASA. The goal of NASA is to give us cool space shit.
We feel like we're not getting enough cool space shit. You have $25 billion a year. Go and do cool space shit. I think you would get a lot more cool space shit under that principle. But one of the basic principles of kind of the California startup way of thinking is just to realize it's way easier to create a new NASA than it is to fix the old NASA.
We feel like we're not getting enough cool space shit. You have $25 billion a year. Go and do cool space shit. I think you would get a lot more cool space shit under that principle. But one of the basic principles of kind of the California startup way of thinking is just to realize it's way easier to create a new NASA than it is to fix the old NASA.
And that principle extends sort of around the government.
And that principle extends sort of around the government.
The funny thing is, I think that's almost the opposite of the truth. It's like, let me give you a very simple illustration of this. Someone I have actually never met, believe it or not, who is Elon Musk. Now, Elon tweeted the other day, he was like, the proper structure of government on Mars should be not just a democracy, but a direct democracy.
The funny thing is, I think that's almost the opposite of the truth. It's like, let me give you a very simple illustration of this. Someone I have actually never met, believe it or not, who is Elon Musk. Now, Elon tweeted the other day, he was like, the proper structure of government on Mars should be not just a democracy, but a direct democracy.
Let me sort of examine the thinking behind Musk saying this, because I find it sort of extremely odd in a sense. Like, because one of the things about monarchy that's been known for quite some time, and again, even in very, very anti-monarchical ways, regimes and periods and exception is made for this, is that a ship always has a captain. An airplane always has a captain.
Let me sort of examine the thinking behind Musk saying this, because I find it sort of extremely odd in a sense. Like, because one of the things about monarchy that's been known for quite some time, and again, even in very, very anti-monarchical ways, regimes and periods and exception is made for this, is that a ship always has a captain. An airplane always has a captain.
Basically, in any very safety-critical environment... You should have someone in charge. You should have someone in charge. But the thing is, you look at basically a Mars colony, And you're just like, really, are the like the citizens of the Mars colony going to vote on like how to like replenish the oxygen supply or whatever? Like, no, of course not.
Basically, in any very safety-critical environment... You should have someone in charge. You should have someone in charge. But the thing is, you look at basically a Mars colony, And you're just like, really, are the like the citizens of the Mars colony going to vote on like how to like replenish the oxygen supply or whatever? Like, no, of course not.
The Mars colony that Elon establishes will be a subsidiary of SpaceX and it will have someone in charge and it will have a command hierarchy just like SpaceX does. And so I'm like, Elon, when you say that this should be a democracy, what are the people voting on? And so there's this world of actually real governance that someone like Elon Musk lives in every day.
The Mars colony that Elon establishes will be a subsidiary of SpaceX and it will have someone in charge and it will have a command hierarchy just like SpaceX does. And so I'm like, Elon, when you say that this should be a democracy, what are the people voting on? And so there's this world of actually real governance that someone like Elon Musk lives in every day.
And actually applying that world, applying that thinking to like, you know, being like, oh, this is, you know, this thinking is directly contradictory, you know, in a sense, to the ideals that I was taught in this society, that's a really difficult cognitive dissonance problem, even if you're Elon Musk.
And actually applying that world, applying that thinking to like, you know, being like, oh, this is, you know, this thinking is directly contradictory, you know, in a sense, to the ideals that I was taught in this society, that's a really difficult cognitive dissonance problem, even if you're Elon Musk.