Cy Gavin
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Podcast Appearances
And it was like a thing I was making in the vacuum of my own
I love that that happened.
And also, I've been the beneficiary of so many people like that in my life.
It was not fun in the summer.
I mean, it was... Because also, you were wearing, like, a cheap suit in, like, 100-degree weather.
These were not confidants of mine.
And so... And they had no... No, they had no interest in me as a person.
I was a product of their... of them.
I think, you know, my mother is alive and has really evolved since then.
But my father did not evolve away from that.
And yeah, I don't think it's so many of those kinds of environments.
It's about power and control.