Cy Gavin

And what happens and what's interesting about painting to me is that whatever you put in does go into this kind of under a realm of the subconscious and comes out in all kinds of ways.

I believe that like when I was working on this painting, that some part of my brain was,

remembered that Bruegel painting and actually that cut into the wheat field, which struck me as like a very strange, cool choice.

It sort of punctures the way that you see the painting.

And I was not thinking about that in this painting here.

But I think that all those things just end up informing decisions you make.

And only later you're like, oh, like, did I just repaint someone else's painting?

So it's like hard to put into words what it is to be at this museum, but it feels like my home, like a sort of cultural home in lots of ways.

I don't have to sneak in anymore.

Yeah, this is my favorite place in New York, so.

No.

No.

I front-loaded my life that way.

I was just like, I'm not doing this again.

I had very hard conversations with gallerists that I worked with years and years ago about that.

And it meant that no one goes in my studio.

It's my space.

And that is probably unique a bit.

Like, I don't... People don't go to my studio.

So...