Cy Gavin

Um, not only can that now pick up something that's half done and say, I want to sell that they, or like, stop, it's done.

Don't put another, it's like, it's like, you don't know what you're looking at.

So I don't either.

I don't either, but you certainly don't.

Um, so for me, like that has meant, um, like huge freedom.

And I think certainly probably meant that certain opportunities were not afforded to me because I was not having people, uh, in my studio in the same way.

And I was not, uh,

allowing them to ever say like, do that again.

The moment someone ever said anything along those lines, I would just be like, I'd have a conversation about it.

If they did it twice, there's a problem.

So, you know, I think many people I know are, have been intimidated into behavior because of that kind of pressure.

And I think it is very important to not yield to it.

That's true.

I don't know if I can.

I took this picture literally last night.

I'm looking at this and working on it in real time.

I think it probably came out of, the painting that was previous to this is of the Delaware River frozen.

And I was going there and drawing or painting the river.

But then it melted.

So this is probably the algae that's underneath that I've been looking at.