Dacher Keltner

Deckard Keltner, he and him.

Yeah, you know, and it's actually a really deep question because awe is often for people when they experience it, it's ineffable.

It's hard to describe.

It's so amazing.

It's beyond your knowledge.

Like, how in the world can we make sense of this?

And so one way that we know someone else is experiencing awe is through what I've studied for 35 years in the spirit of Paul Ekman and Charles Darwin, which is the face, like...

Excellent.

Well, that has the ah sound in it, which I hope our audience heard of, like, ah!

But it also had a little bit of squeal of delight.

Yeah, so around the world, we call those vocal bursts.

They're very meaningful sounds that are old in evolution.

And around the world, people are like,

Whoa!

And so we know when someone's feeling awe with those signs.

And then, you know, just as importantly is, how do I know I'm feeling awe, right?

And so it's been interesting talking about awe for a couple of years because people often say like, I kind of know what you're talking about.

Like, I saw this incredible sunrise, but is that awe?

And we know it from our bodies, right?

This rush of goosebumps, which is a very specific sign