Dacher Keltner

is the extraordinary miracle of life is its beginning, its growth and its ending.

And that it repeats itself.

That's just a law of the universe.

It was the first time I understood that when I had to see my brother die.

Watch your brother die.

Yeah.

Yeah, grief is panic and breathlessness and waking up at all hours and grasping for who was gone.

My brother and I shared a narrative about life.

I couldn't hear his voice that I heard all the time.

And it was strange, Oprah, here I was studying this emotion, giving it to people and I just couldn't feel it.

I very intentionally said, you know,

I'm gonna go in search of the wonders of life.

I'm gonna find some moral beauty.

I'm gonna be out in nature.

I'm gonna listen to music that I don't understand like classical music, or I'm gonna think about the big ideas that matter to me.

And so it took a while, but it changed my life.

Yeah, I think one of the most important findings from our research is people think awe is mysterious.

It takes a lot of money.

You gotta travel somewhere to find it.

And that's just not true around the world.