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Dale Hanson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2365 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Donnie says, don't forget, 58,000 people have been killed in those training missions.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

You had to remember that because it's in Vietnam, it's still dangerous.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

What would some of the missions be in CONUS?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Over the fence?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Intelligence was probably number one.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Sometimes it's strike action.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

My team in particular was specialized to be a prisoner of war snatch.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

That's what we did.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And usually...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

you'd want to have a couple extra people because you have the snatch, you know, the attack element.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And then you have somebody behind you with a radio in case something goes south.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And then you got the two wings, you know, security.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So the wing can say they're coming or something like that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So you're talking about two on each wing and an attack element and then somebody behind.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So ideally, you'd have about 10 people.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

But it's hard to hide 10 people, too.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

But we would have the attack element, and I'm not sure if I'm getting carried away here, but a lot of times we would have a couple claymores, and we have a claymore here, a claymore here.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And in between, we have a dead, not a dead space, but an empty space.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And that's where we would time it so the prisoner was right there.