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Dale Hanson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2365 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

collect the information.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

A lot of our guys would go out, they see the enemy, they get in a firefight, usually they initiated it, and then they would ask for an exfiltration.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So the missions were being cut off simply because they didn't break contact and continue the mission.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And so they were saying that our old guys are kind of disappearing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

You need to sit back and watch for a while.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So I did.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And what was happening was Ford Drum.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

It was a secret program that only about six of us Special Forces and six or eight pilots ever knew.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

They flew bird dogs and all that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Our job was going behind the lines, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, not Thailand, North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, and look for intelligence.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And if it was fruitful, you wouldn't have to send a recon team in there and expose them to being killed.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Or if you did send one in there, it was to confirm or deny or find a vulnerability.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So we were...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

One of us would fly about 4,000 or 5,000 feet, and the other one about 10, 20 feet.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And so the top one up there would say there's a villa and a highway out there that looks like trucks.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And so we would come down on the low level, sometimes below the trees, and actually tilt wings to get between trees.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And I would be out the window taking the pictures, snapping pictures.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

and finding enemy intelligence.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

It would be new segments of road, truck parks, things like that, really important things.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And that's what we did.