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Dale Hanson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2365 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

I think in some ways it showed up in the recon first because the adage that we had in SOG was, okay, you get in a firefight or something like that, and the adage was always break contact and continue mission.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So as much as you can, you overwhelm them, broke contact, E&E to get them out of the way, and then...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Continue the mission if you can, because your job is gathering intelligence.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And the fact that unless it was overwhelming force and it's eminent disaster for you, you don't call for an exfiltration.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

You continue the mission.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

That ethic didn't seem to carry over to the new guys, because so many of them would get in a firefight and then they pulled out and then went to A&D and got their bronze star or whatever, you know.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And we would, we had some missions that we are, it was so dense and so forth.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And you had to sneak repeat so much.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And yet you were so successful at it that you didn't have a firefight.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And then you come out of the thing and people would think, well, you had a dry hole and nothing happened, you know, because you didn't get in the firefight.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

And it's like, we did what we were supposed to do and didn't get in the firefight, you know.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

They could.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

In other words, if they found something significant, they could radio the information.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

They could send in a reaction force.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

So they would turn it over?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Yeah, they could do that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Things that needed to be acted on right away or they're going to lose their significance.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

Perhaps something that stalled the enemy movement going south, wherever they were, that gave you an opportunity right there.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#260 Dale Hanson - Why MACV-SOG Had an 85% Casualty Rate and 1-in-4000 Odds

If you act right now, you're going to do all right.