Dallas Jenkins
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227 appearances
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1 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
Dallas Jenkins’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And my wife Amanda is here uniquely to make sure that I don't go back to who I was, you know, the day before that moment. And so when Jesus calls us differently, I mean, the message of salvation is the same, but the calling is specific. And that's what you see in the show, is that when you see Jesus in the show— We've probably, by season five, have shown, I don't know, a dozen or more miracles.
More than that, callings, rebukes, all of that. But each time, it's specific to the heart of the person he's talking to. And we do that cinematographically, too. We shrink the moment so that it feels personal.
And what everyone says to me when they recognize me in public, nine times out of ten, and I'm not exaggerating when I say this, will say to me, thank you for the show, and they'll start to cry. Mm-hmm. And you experience this too. How many people, when they meet you, start to cry? Not because you're a celebrity, but because something's changed. Something's changed.
I've experienced that in my life. We'll talk about this off camera, but some of the people in our lives who you've changed just from something you've said or written. And so people will come up to me and they'll start to cry. But nine times out of ten, when they say something about the show, it's always, it feels personal.
It doesn't feel like I'm walking in and I love St. Peter's Basilica.
And that's what I mean when I say I'm taking him down from the stained glass window. So I visit St. Peter's Basilica in Italy, and it's one of the most, probably the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life.
It can be to the wrong person or in the wrong place. It can be distancing. It can make you go, is this the only way to reach God is to create this level of beauty, and he's up there on the ceiling, or he's in that painting and that structure? I can't access him. I have to be quiet as I walk through it. I have to admire it. I don't have a relationship with it.
And I certainly don't have a relationship personally with him. And so when my job is and what I'm experiencing myself and what you see in the show is, again, what I talked about earlier, Jesus reaching for you. You might be reaching for him and think that you have to do this perfect thing, and that's oftentimes what happens in the Old Testament. It has to be perfect, perfect, perfect.
Jesus comes in and says, you know what? It's never fully going to get there. It's never going to be perfect enough, so I'll do it for you. I will be that perfection. I will be that sacrifice. I will be the perfect sacrifice that Cain couldn't come up with. And so in doing that, it makes it personal and human.
And so when Jesus is healing the woman who's been bleeding for 12 years, or he's healing the man who's been blind for so long, or he's saving Simon Peter who is a believer, but who is focused on accomplishment and trying to catch as many fish as he can so that he can pay his taxes. And Jesus comes in and calls him to something greater, which is a fisher of men, not a fisher of fish.
And all that is happening on a personal level, and it's causing people to respond emotionally.
So my belief is that... As we've seen you, Jordan Peterson, over the last several years come to grips with the suffering you experienced, the physical suffering you experienced when you kind of disappeared for a year. And those of us who were fans are going, how is he doing?
And you came back out of that and described it and talked about it and your relationship with your wife and your daughter and all of the stories that we keep seeing on podcasts. And you talk about a dream that you've had. I mean, all the things that we've seen and people asking you questions. Do you believe Jesus actually walked out of the tomb?
It's watching—I think people feel more connected to you than ever because they're seeing not only these brilliant lectures that you've given and these books that you've written, but now I'm seeing you cry because you're describing a dream that you've had. And that makes me go, oh, no. Now I want to hear even more.
And now some of the stuff that you're saying intellectually and broadly actually makes even more sense. And I'm even more connected to it. And I believe that's who God is. You know, I don't have the intellectual capability to do even some of the things you're doing in your gospel series for Daily Wire. But I know that God created and Jesus rose.
And those two things are enough for me—they're not everything, but it's enough for me to go, if I know that and I believe that truly, then that makes everything else make sense.
And now I can see some of these mysterious things through a foundation that's secure and solid and that I still do believe, even if I don't understand this story, I do believe God created, and I do believe Jesus rose from the dead. And so my job as a storyteller and as a herald is to make that palatable to the masses as much as possible so that they're not—
resistant to or denied the opportunity to explore because of things like propaganda or church hurt or or even their own religion sometimes our own religion can get in the way of a relationship a personal relationship with jesus so i don't sit here writing going how am i going to accomplish this and i want to make sure that i'm sitting here just trying to tell a great story as much as well as i can and honor god and the text
But I think that's what's happening. That's when people meet me and they start to cry and they thank me. It's they're saying, I saw Jesus wink or I saw Jesus look her in the eye or I saw Jesus come down to his level as opposed to staying here. And it broke me because I realized it's for me too, just not only for that person.
And so that's what the chosen is doing for many people is if you can see Jesus through the eyes of those who actually met him, perhaps you can be changed and impacted in the same way they were. Or, as is also in the case for many people who watch the show, they love the historical drama. It's a good show. They appreciate it. 30% to 40% of our audience is nonbelievers.
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