Dallas Jenkins
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227 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Did you find that that diminished his divinity, or did you find that it enhanced it? I'm just curious for someone like yourself, because for most people who watched it, it was revelatory.
Well, and how many people were telling you? Like, you probably had viewers and listeners going, yeah, watch the show.
Because Christians all over the world have looked at you for the last several years as almost like a gateway drug into Christianity, but still hoping. When is Jordan Peterson, like, do you believe? Have you met the need?
How many Christians have you met have gone, so do you believe Jesus rose from the dead?
It's like... Yeah, people are competing for Dr. Jordan Peterson to bring them into their fold the correct way.
Because Michaela had a similar—she just decided to surrender and give her life to Jesus, and then— Yeah, well, she had a very powerful experience that preceded that.
Well, then that probably eliminates me as a reader, but I'll try.
What did you think of the things like Jesus brushing his teeth in a stream, which seem normal, but to an average Christian, they've never thought of it before.
Yes.
I'm going to put that on our poster. Well, it's a hard— Dr. Jordan Peterson, more than pleased to continue watching.
Or even the similarity of the previous three seasons. As an artist, we have to break out. We have to do something different.
Well, everyone who's seen it so far, this is season five, we're currently finishing it, and those who've seen it and read the scripts and the actors who... Like, while we were filming it, we're all saying, oh, this is our best season yet. Oh, oh, that's good. Yeah, and it's... And you might think, well, they're just biased. There's recency bias. No, they... No, they could get exhausted.
Because they go into each season, when they get the scripts, the actors and the crew going, oh, please be good. Right, right. Expecting it to do what you just said, which is to start to wane. Yeah. And I would argue that we've gotten better as storytellers and as filmmakers. Now, to be fair, we're blessed by the story. I mean, season five is Holy Week.
It's the most impactful and important week in the history of humanity.
There's a big mouthful to chew. And you see Jesus show sides of himself he's never shown, which is turning over the tables of the temple and yelling and then willingly giving himself up. And you see the betrayer emerge. Judas breaks bad during Holy Week, right? Yeah. A million people both— Conspiring with Caiaphas. Yes, where we are now.
And, of course, in Holy Week, in history, it was over a million people all gathered in one city, as many friends of Jesus as enemies. Believers and people who wanted him killed, and they're all in one powder keg. Right, right, right. So that makes— Hot town, hot time in the old town tonight. So I can't take too much credit for the unique excitement of season five.
It's not necessarily that I'm a better storyteller, although I think I am, but it's also that the text is giving me so much to work with. But I think another thing that sometimes causes people to—shows to wane is what you said earlier, which is they get enraptured by the success. And so I always am brought back to that moment, back at 4 o'clock in the morning,
in the morning and I surrendered and recognized my own humanity and my own sinfulness and my own narcissism and my own need for surrender and my giving of all and God strike my soul if I if I go back to who I was the day before.
And you just brought up what I think is a potentially strong, I don't know if I want to call it a conclusion to our conversation about the specifics of the show, but to an understanding of what I think makes the show work, which is that Jesus knows our hearts. He wants a relationship. He wants a relationship with you specifically.
So whether he's healing you, calling you to follow him, or rebuking you, it's not based on a paint-by-numbers, one-size-fits-all. He knows what's in your heart. He knew what I needed to become the creator of the chosen. It wasn't the same thing as someone else needed, right? He spoke to me directly and...
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