Dallas Jenkins

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227 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Dec 2024

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That's good. There's something— You hit a chord. There was something almost transcendent about what happened with that short film, that little thing I did on my friend's farm 20 minutes from my house. People—so when they said, we're going to put it on social media, and that will be the tool to raise crowdfunding.
I thought it was a ridiculous idea. Aha. But Loaves and Fish— Right, that's for sure. A year ago, I would have said, no, that won't work. Therefore, we must do a different plan. It required some outside-of-the-box thinkers who aren't conventional to come up with the idea, and it required a broken, surrendered, humbled man to accept the idea.
My job is to provide this short film, and then to humbly request people, if you love this, you can contribute to season one of this multi-season Bible show.
Yeah, yeah. And for whatever reason, 16,000 people around the world contributed $10 million based on this little 20-minute short film.
Talk about a market test. But also talk about my wife a year later, once when we hit that $10 million mark and shattered the all-time crowdfunding record for media projects. And now it comes into understanding what we were being communicated a year earlier from God, which is, see, surrender. Five loaves and two fish.
At the time, VidAngel, now they're called- VidAngel, and then it was Angel Studios.
Okay, so you raise... Right, but at no point during the process am I ever skipping steps. I'm still at the Loaves and Fish step, Loaves and Fish step.
So, oh, we raised $10 million. Well, that's amazing. That's cool. The old me would have felt pretty darn good about myself and said, well, this should lead to then the next thing.
Yes, no, no, no. Okay, now I'm tasked with making season one.
Sure, but I don't think it would have been possible. Well, no, no, I should say that again. I know it wouldn't have been possible, and I don't think God would have given it to me had I not had the surrender. Yeah, right? It's as much about my own brokenness as it was about, oh, you finally figured it out. You finally figured out what you're good at. Now you're ready to succeed.
It's, no, you finally figured out... the surrender necessary to even be good at what you do. The show right now is better than what I'm doing.
I've made a couple of good decisions. I'll give myself credit. I've made good five loaves and two fish. I'm not going to be falsely modest about that. But the feeding of the 5,000 not only is not something I don't think about while I'm doing it, I also don't take responsibility for it when it happens. I take responsibility for making really good five loaves and two fish. Yeah.
Figured out the recipe and I catch good fish and God uses them and they're impacting people so that we get to that place where now I have the means to do season one, yet still not knowing if there's going to be a season two. Yeah. God never lets me get ahead of myself or feel comfortable with, well, now I've finally arrived.
So we make season one and it takes some time to resonate because it's on a new app and it's hard to find. Right.
So a whole other episode could talk about the business assumptions that were wrong over and over and over again before how many times we had to start all over to figure things out. But long story short, it was clear that when people did watch it, there was a transcendent response of some kind. I mean, it was clear that the emotion of it, the humanity of it.
I consider my job to be twofold as a storyteller and as a herald. Number one, it's to take Jesus down from stained glass windows and to take the disciples down from stained glass windows and to the formality of religion that sometimes can distance ourselves from Jesus. from a pure relationship with God.
Sometimes, you know, we say that, we evangelicals sometimes say religion is about man's attempts to reach God. A true relationship with true Christianity is about God's attempts to reach man. It depends on how, when you see the painting of Jesus, of God and the Father and Adam pointing at each other, who's reaching for who, right?
Evangelicals look at it like God's reaching for Adam and he's accepting it, right? He's receiving it. And so my job is to remove the religiosity of how we oftentimes see God. And we see him in paintings or stained glass windows. And then even when we sometimes watch movies, he still feels like a stained glass window.
He's very formal and distant and pious and not funny or not interesting or not charismatic. And so my show is designed to bring... Jesus down from the stained glass window or from the statue and remind you that he's a human being in addition to his divinity. Of course, we still see him perform miracles and claim authority in the show.
But I'm curious for you as someone who is so intellectual, when you saw Jesus, for example, in The Chosen brushing his teeth in a stream or winking at a friend or laughing— at the wedding at Cana when, you know, before he does the miracle, he's dancing with his friends, and then it turns out ultimately the miracle comes down to a favor for his friends because his mom asked him to.
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