Dallas Jenkins

Correct. So in that moment, when I'm literally... analyzing what I did wrong, coming off of a day of wrestling with the story of the feeding the 5,000, this gentleman randomly out of the blue tells me, it's not that. It's not that you failed per se. It's not that you, we could argue about, did I make the best five loaves and two fish? Was the recipe a good recipe?

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It took a year, and I think it's still taking place today as you and I talk about this show, that, spoiler alert, has become one of the most successful shows in the world, and I have gotten some of those things that I used to pursue. but it's different now. So we'll put a pin in that. We'll come back to this moment. I don't know yet. I'm going, okay, so he's right.

It took a year, and I think it's still taking place today as you and I talk about this show, that, spoiler alert, has become one of the most successful shows in the world, and I have gotten some of those things that I used to pursue. but it's different now. So we'll put a pin in that. We'll come back to this moment. I don't know yet. I'm going, okay, so he's right.

It took a year, and I think it's still taking place today as you and I talk about this show, that, spoiler alert, has become one of the most successful shows in the world, and I have gotten some of those things that I used to pursue. but it's different now. So we'll put a pin in that. We'll come back to this moment. I don't know yet. I'm going, okay, so he's right.

The message is you did your part, but the reality Did I do a good job? Was the fish and loaves the best? I don't know yet. I don't know what the reason is for this because if the feeding, if the result, the miracle isn't a good result for the resurrection of Gavin Stone, the name of the movie, if it's still failing, if it's never going to succeed, then what is the, I gave my loaves and fish.

The message is you did your part, but the reality Did I do a good job? Was the fish and loaves the best? I don't know yet. I don't know what the reason is for this because if the feeding, if the result, the miracle isn't a good result for the resurrection of Gavin Stone, the name of the movie, if it's still failing, if it's never going to succeed, then what is the, I gave my loaves and fish.

The message is you did your part, but the reality Did I do a good job? Was the fish and loaves the best? I don't know yet. I don't know what the reason is for this because if the feeding, if the result, the miracle isn't a good result for the resurrection of Gavin Stone, the name of the movie, if it's still failing, if it's never going to succeed, then what is the, I gave my loaves and fish.

He's just saying to me in that moment, don't worry about it. Be okay, because I'm wrestling with, so what's the next step? And I don't know. And God's economy of time is different from humanity's economy of time. So I'm wanting the answer now. He's saying, you don't have that answer now. Just know, just stop thinking about the result. Think more about the five loaves and two fish.

He's just saying to me in that moment, don't worry about it. Be okay, because I'm wrestling with, so what's the next step? And I don't know. And God's economy of time is different from humanity's economy of time. So I'm wanting the answer now. He's saying, you don't have that answer now. Just know, just stop thinking about the result. Think more about the five loaves and two fish.

He's just saying to me in that moment, don't worry about it. Be okay, because I'm wrestling with, so what's the next step? And I don't know. And God's economy of time is different from humanity's economy of time. So I'm wanting the answer now. He's saying, you don't have that answer now. Just know, just stop thinking about the result. Think more about the five loaves and two fish.

And so for me, as someone who over 40 years of my life had always measured myself by the results, was seeking a particular result, Affirmation was my drug of choice. Legitimacy was my drug of choice. It was my voice, my vice. Narcissism was my struggle. In this moment, I think that the feeding of the 5,000 refers to many things. It refers to financial success. It refers to Hollywood legitimacy.

And so for me, as someone who over 40 years of my life had always measured myself by the results, was seeking a particular result, Affirmation was my drug of choice. Legitimacy was my drug of choice. It was my voice, my vice. Narcissism was my struggle. In this moment, I think that the feeding of the 5,000 refers to many things. It refers to financial success. It refers to Hollywood legitimacy.

And so for me, as someone who over 40 years of my life had always measured myself by the results, was seeking a particular result, Affirmation was my drug of choice. Legitimacy was my drug of choice. It was my voice, my vice. Narcissism was my struggle. In this moment, I think that the feeding of the 5,000 refers to many things. It refers to financial success. It refers to Hollywood legitimacy.

It refers to what people think of me, the audience. The audience rejected what I was bringing to them, right? So did Hollywood. So did... Anything that I'm seeking. So, okay, well, that's nice to hear. But in that moment, I realized from now on—and I became a different person that night, that morning, 4 o'clock in the morning. Okay. God—

It refers to what people think of me, the audience. The audience rejected what I was bringing to them, right? So did Hollywood. So did... Anything that I'm seeking. So, okay, well, that's nice to hear. But in that moment, I realized from now on—and I became a different person that night, that morning, 4 o'clock in the morning. Okay. God—

It refers to what people think of me, the audience. The audience rejected what I was bringing to them, right? So did Hollywood. So did... Anything that I'm seeking. So, okay, well, that's nice to hear. But in that moment, I realized from now on—and I became a different person that night, that morning, 4 o'clock in the morning. Okay. God—

as long as I am in your will, as long as I am providing five loaves and two fish that you deem acceptable, the transaction's over. No longer will I seek the feeding. I'm not going to be the boy who provides the five loaves and two fish, sees it multiplied, goes home to his parents and says, look, mom and dad, I fed 5,000 people today. That would be ludicrous.