Damian Hughes

He said, revision isn't what you can put in your brain, it's what you can get out of it.

So he spoke about the Ebbinghaus curve of forgetting, where it was like, just test, test, test, and me test.

And the more you can do that, the more you can get out of your brain rather than worry about what you can cram in.

Yeah, definitely.

I think whatever we do, we're going to have to face pressure.

I was talking to somebody this week who worked out in South African rugby, who said that they have this lovely phrase that pressure will find you.

So don't try and escape it.

Don't deny it.

Don't try and find a way around it.

Pressure will find you.

So learning how to face it and deal with it.

and tackle it head on it's the hallmark of all sort of high performing cultures you know sir alex ferguson used to call it squeaky bum time that mo that period where expectations are high and the pressures really acute that was the bit that defined champions from wannabes and you know you only have to look at the premier league title race at the moment to see the

the sort of neck and neck competition between Arsenal and Manchester City or go to the other end of the table and look at Spurs and West Ham squeaky bum time is very real in those dressing rooms so it's a topical area that I thought we could go and explore with some of the finest minds of our generation

Let's start with Chrissie Wellington because, again, I hope that, you know, when we do these archive episodes, people will go back and listen to the whole of the conversation because her story is incredible.

I mean, I still tell people about Chrissie and I'm often surprised that people are not familiar with her incredible story.

She was somebody that didn't start competing as an athlete until she was in her late 20s.

She's a perfect example of a growth mindset.

She had this latent talent while she was working as a civil servant.

It was only when she ran her first London marathon and did a triathlon at Eton did she realise that actually that was where her superpowers lay.

So I'd love to explore what Chrissie shared with us in more detail.