Damien Barrett

What about the mirror elegance?

It was eight.

Nine.

Funny.

That is funny.

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As of last night, obviously matches still to be played, but they're in the fourth spot too.

I knew you were talking about him.

Yeah.

Now you can stream the footy wherever you go.

as is Ted Richards, a director, Tim Roberts, the CEO of the footy club, and also Caroline Monson, who was an executive within the organisation there.

We do and have since learnt, since the public announcement of that yesterday, that they will open the doors up to James Heard to be part of at least a conversation aspect of it.

And I still expect it to be an Essendon-flavoured outcome.

Now, how that looks and with it is the actual main title itself, but there will be Essendon people in the coaching structure next year.

If they're not the main coach, they'll be in the assistant coaching ranks of some significance.

They've at least gone public with it, how it looks, and they're in no rush either as well.

They're not getting caught up in a race necessarily with Carlton also looking for a coach.

Yes.

And the coaching he does at junior level, people look at it and will say, yeah, it's school level, I get that.

Exactly.