Damien Barrett

And the strategies around these two interim coaches too, Josh Fraser and Dean Solomon, very clearly and directly are saying publicly, not considering it at all.

I think it's just smart business.

It's smart management for both the individuals there and also the clubs at which they're at.

Yeah, look, I'd be staggered if he doesn't get a significant look in burn with what Graeme Wright's doing there at Carlton.

It's a pretty good raft of assistant coaches in that bracket now, Bern.

And you're right about the guys you've mentioned.

Really?

And it's a worry, too, with the development that hasn't now been put into these guys they did draft because of the injuries they've sustained.

Now, there's still the expectation, Bill, that these guys will eventually get their bodies right and still have good careers.

But some of them, like in Josh Smiley's case...

198.

Did he?

Yeah.

Or a bit more, maybe.

Maybe a few more.

Perfume.

Now you can stream the footy wherever you go.

Yeah, exactly.

Separation of powers.

One of the big issues in North Geelong, literacy with school children, drug abuse.