Damien Hughes

Well, we're coming up for Wimbledon, Jake, and this is a man that Andre Agassi recommends.

This is somebody that Ash Barty worked with before she won Wimbledon.

Steph Gilmore, the eight-time world surfing champion, credits him with transforming her career.

He's an Australian performance coach.

His name's Ben Crow and he's never told any of his clients that they're the best.

Well, he helps them separate who they are from what they do.

Now, I know that might sound simple, but most athletes, most people have never actually done that.

You know, think about...

One of the first conversations you'll meet when you meet a stranger is, what do you do?

Not, who are you?

Do you know what I mean?

And the cost of not doing this is exactly what we're going to talk about with Ben today.

Talk about this idea in your billing book about separating what you do from who you are.

Why do so many of us find that such a difficult thing to uncouple?

Well, why don't we start with Boom Boom himself, Mr Boris Becker.

We went out to Dusseldorf to meet with him.

Do you remember when he walked into the room with us and his charisma, his sort of force of personality and just his strident views on the world sort of filled the space, didn't he?

He was a force of nature.

But it was interesting to listen to him reflect on

His career, when most people remember him winning Wimbledon at 17, Futa, what happened when he reached the age of 25?