Dan Abrams

But on the whole, I have sympathy.

for the agents who are being put into this situation.

And I think if you want to point the finger at the excesses, and I do think that there have been serious excesses with regard to some of what we've seen with ICE, you can't blame the agents without, who are supposedly on video, without blaming the bosses.

It depends what the effort is, right?

Again, same standard I apply to local and federal, right?

I try not to get caught up in the, you know, oh, is this ICE?

Just apply the same standard to everybody, right?

Which is, let's say there's a protest against police.

My question is going to be, how are you going about doing it?

Are you doing it in a way that is scary or violent?

Yeah, then I'm going to come down on you.

And you know what?

I think that those people should have the book thrown at them.

the people who are engaging in any sort of violence against federal or local officers.

I'm always supportive of the maximum.

for those, I think it is so dangerous to the fabric of our society to be going after federal or local law enforcement in that way.

But to simply say, well, you know, these guys are doing wrong and therefore that somehow puts into context, it puts into context maybe some reactions, right?

Meaning, and I, again, I say this in

local police all the time, which is if people don't see what happens beginning, middle, and end in the story, they can't make a fair judgment on whether police officers or federal officers have crossed a line.

But just because there are people who are doing things that I wouldn't do doesn't necessarily justify some of what we've seen from ICE.