Dan Engber

Like, okay, let me show you a picture of a sandwich, and then while your facilitator's not in the room, bring him back in the room, tell me what you saw. And the reality was, few, if any, people using FC could pass that test.

Definitely not manipulation.

Definitely not manipulation.

Definitely not manipulation.

I think this is really important. It is extreme. You could have read and reported on this at great length, as I have, and it's still extremely hard to tell what's going on when you're seeing it with your own eyes. So I think that's sort of how the podcast works.

I think this is really important. It is extreme. You could have read and reported on this at great length, as I have, and it's still extremely hard to tell what's going on when you're seeing it with your own eyes. So I think that's sort of how the podcast works.

I think this is really important. It is extreme. You could have read and reported on this at great length, as I have, and it's still extremely hard to tell what's going on when you're seeing it with your own eyes. So I think that's sort of how the podcast works.

The people, the host, the camera guy, they're seeing it with their own eyes and then reacting, and they're reacting the way most people would react, seeing this with their own eyes, which is not like, hey, this looks fake, but rather, this looks real.

The people, the host, the camera guy, they're seeing it with their own eyes and then reacting, and they're reacting the way most people would react, seeing this with their own eyes, which is not like, hey, this looks fake, but rather, this looks real.

The people, the host, the camera guy, they're seeing it with their own eyes and then reacting, and they're reacting the way most people would react, seeing this with their own eyes, which is not like, hey, this looks fake, but rather, this looks real.

Well, I think what is so easy to miss or so hard to grasp, even if you know what you're looking for, is this idea that this might be working something like a Ouija board where, you know, a couple of people, two or more people put their hands on something.

Well, I think what is so easy to miss or so hard to grasp, even if you know what you're looking for, is this idea that this might be working something like a Ouija board where, you know, a couple of people, two or more people put their hands on something.

Well, I think what is so easy to miss or so hard to grasp, even if you know what you're looking for, is this idea that this might be working something like a Ouija board where, you know, a couple of people, two or more people put their hands on something.

And just the uncertainty of having multiple hands on it, I think it's called a plushette on the Ouija board, the thing you're sliding around to different letters. Sure. It kind of feels like it's moving on its own, even when you're doing it, right? But even understanding that, this is my point, even knowing that a Ouija board is a toy or a game, it works.

And just the uncertainty of having multiple hands on it, I think it's called a plushette on the Ouija board, the thing you're sliding around to different letters. Sure. It kind of feels like it's moving on its own, even when you're doing it, right? But even understanding that, this is my point, even knowing that a Ouija board is a toy or a game, it works.

And just the uncertainty of having multiple hands on it, I think it's called a plushette on the Ouija board, the thing you're sliding around to different letters. Sure. It kind of feels like it's moving on its own, even when you're doing it, right? But even understanding that, this is my point, even knowing that a Ouija board is a toy or a game, it works.

You know that a spirit isn't moving this thing, and yet it kind of feels like, well, who is moving it?

You know that a spirit isn't moving this thing, and yet it kind of feels like, well, who is moving it?

You know that a spirit isn't moving this thing, and yet it kind of feels like, well, who is moving it?

No chance.