Dan Engber

No chance.

No chance.

No chance, as far as I'm concerned. I can't read minds. I will admit that up front. But I just, I've interviewed a lot of spellers. I've interviewed a lot of spellers' moms. I've never met one that I thought was lying about it. There's one part in the podcast, actually, where Kai Dickens is, like, addressing the skeptics that she knows are out there.

No chance, as far as I'm concerned. I can't read minds. I will admit that up front. But I just, I've interviewed a lot of spellers. I've interviewed a lot of spellers' moms. I've never met one that I thought was lying about it. There's one part in the podcast, actually, where Kai Dickens is, like, addressing the skeptics that she knows are out there.

No chance, as far as I'm concerned. I can't read minds. I will admit that up front. But I just, I've interviewed a lot of spellers. I've interviewed a lot of spellers' moms. I've never met one that I thought was lying about it. There's one part in the podcast, actually, where Kai Dickens is, like, addressing the skeptics that she knows are out there.

And she just says, the idea that the facilitators might be somehow creating these messages is, I forget the phrase, like, unambiguously false. Like, she just rejects outright the possibility that there's any unconscious influence from the facilitators, from the parents. And then she quotes one of the parents saying, the thing is, Kai, we can't all be lying. Right.

And she just says, the idea that the facilitators might be somehow creating these messages is, I forget the phrase, like, unambiguously false. Like, she just rejects outright the possibility that there's any unconscious influence from the facilitators, from the parents. And then she quotes one of the parents saying, the thing is, Kai, we can't all be lying. Right.

And she just says, the idea that the facilitators might be somehow creating these messages is, I forget the phrase, like, unambiguously false. Like, she just rejects outright the possibility that there's any unconscious influence from the facilitators, from the parents. And then she quotes one of the parents saying, the thing is, Kai, we can't all be lying. Right.

And the implication there is like, yeah, you know, okay, maybe you're so skeptical you think Mia's mom is a you know, a grifter or something. But like there are so many parents out here who feel that their kids have telepathy. Like it can't just be a whole army of grifters.

And the implication there is like, yeah, you know, okay, maybe you're so skeptical you think Mia's mom is a you know, a grifter or something. But like there are so many parents out here who feel that their kids have telepathy. Like it can't just be a whole army of grifters.

And the implication there is like, yeah, you know, okay, maybe you're so skeptical you think Mia's mom is a you know, a grifter or something. But like there are so many parents out here who feel that their kids have telepathy. Like it can't just be a whole army of grifters.

I think it is a profoundly intimate act. I've had facilitators facilitate me, and it is... I mean, you're sitting with a stranger, or I was sitting with a stranger, and she puts her hand on mine, and I don't know what to tell you. It's just like suddenly you're holding hands with someone, you feel close to them, right?

I think it is a profoundly intimate act. I've had facilitators facilitate me, and it is... I mean, you're sitting with a stranger, or I was sitting with a stranger, and she puts her hand on mine, and I don't know what to tell you. It's just like suddenly you're holding hands with someone, you feel close to them, right?

I think it is a profoundly intimate act. I've had facilitators facilitate me, and it is... I mean, you're sitting with a stranger, or I was sitting with a stranger, and she puts her hand on mine, and I don't know what to tell you. It's just like suddenly you're holding hands with someone, you feel close to them, right?

There's just such a desire to, I think we all have a desire to connect and feel understood and feel like we're understanding people. Now, raise that desire to the hundredth power if you're talking about a mother or a father trying to connect with their child.

There's just such a desire to, I think we all have a desire to connect and feel understood and feel like we're understanding people. Now, raise that desire to the hundredth power if you're talking about a mother or a father trying to connect with their child.

There's just such a desire to, I think we all have a desire to connect and feel understood and feel like we're understanding people. Now, raise that desire to the hundredth power if you're talking about a mother or a father trying to connect with their child.

to the thousandth power if that child is non-speaking, and it's always sort of hard to exactly understand what's going on in your child's mind. I mean, the desire is even shortchanging it. It seems like the most urgent need I can possibly imagine is to find a way to communicate with your child, and here is this thing, and at first it's frustrating, it's not working, and then, wait, what?

to the thousandth power if that child is non-speaking, and it's always sort of hard to exactly understand what's going on in your child's mind. I mean, the desire is even shortchanging it. It seems like the most urgent need I can possibly imagine is to find a way to communicate with your child, and here is this thing, and at first it's frustrating, it's not working, and then, wait, what?

to the thousandth power if that child is non-speaking, and it's always sort of hard to exactly understand what's going on in your child's mind. I mean, the desire is even shortchanging it. It seems like the most urgent need I can possibly imagine is to find a way to communicate with your child, and here is this thing, and at first it's frustrating, it's not working, and then, wait, what?