Dan Epps
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Yeah. Maybe there wouldn't be the urgency to do it this term in the same way that there was with, say, the TikTok case where they really needed to be resolved before the law went into effect.
But the court could grant some interim relief getting rid of the injunction without making clear its position on the merits, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. By the way, TikTok, where does that stand now? It's a little confusing, right? So you can't download the app anymore. If you deleted the app – Can you not download it? The app stores, as I understand it, are not letting new people download it.
But the court could grant some interim relief getting rid of the injunction without making clear its position on the merits, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. By the way, TikTok, where does that stand now? It's a little confusing, right? So you can't download the app anymore. If you deleted the app – Can you not download it? The app stores, as I understand it, are not letting new people download it.
But TikTok still functions for those people who still have the app because of this kind of ongoing uncertainty about what's going to happen. Right.
But TikTok still functions for those people who still have the app because of this kind of ongoing uncertainty about what's going to happen. Right.
Could you have been disbarred for that? If you had basically misrepresented what you knew to be – So I had a backup plan. OK. OK.
Could you have been disbarred for that? If you had basically misrepresented what you knew to be – So I had a backup plan. OK. OK.
Yeah, because some of these states have these rules that if you're a recognized church officiant, you can solemnize a wedding. But these kind of other mail order churches cannot. Yeah.
Yeah, because some of these states have these rules that if you're a recognized church officiant, you can solemnize a wedding. But these kind of other mail order churches cannot. Yeah.
Well, that was an interesting detour. Well, we've been going – we had two cases we wanted to talk about. We've been going on a little bit longer than perhaps we should have. So is it time to bring our special guest to the podium? All right. So our special guest today is I think the newest addition to the Stanford Law Faculty, Oren Kerr, who joined in – 27 days ago. So Oren is coming to the podium.
Well, that was an interesting detour. Well, we've been going – we had two cases we wanted to talk about. We've been going on a little bit longer than perhaps we should have. So is it time to bring our special guest to the podium? All right. So our special guest today is I think the newest addition to the Stanford Law Faculty, Oren Kerr, who joined in – 27 days ago. So Oren is coming to the podium.
He's about to sit down and get his own microphone. So Oren, you've been a long time listener and supporter of the show. OREN WELCHEY- I have. Thank you for being with us. And thank you for showing up. I'd say there's 40 or 50 of the Stanford faculty in attendance right now. But we had to pluck Oren from the crowd, the throng. So thanks for being with us.
He's about to sit down and get his own microphone. So Oren, you've been a long time listener and supporter of the show. OREN WELCHEY- I have. Thank you for being with us. And thank you for showing up. I'd say there's 40 or 50 of the Stanford faculty in attendance right now. But we had to pluck Oren from the crowd, the throng. So thanks for being with us.
So we've got a few things we want to talk with you about. So one is a theme that you've reiterated a lot on blogging and on Twitter, which is the – overall the kind of – the fact that Fourth Amendment cases have largely disappeared from the Supreme Court's docket. We do have one. Fourth Amendment-ish case to talk about with you. But the court sort of – was it maybe five years ago, six years ago?
So we've got a few things we want to talk with you about. So one is a theme that you've reiterated a lot on blogging and on Twitter, which is the – overall the kind of – the fact that Fourth Amendment cases have largely disappeared from the Supreme Court's docket. We do have one. Fourth Amendment-ish case to talk about with you. But the court sort of – was it maybe five years ago, six years ago?
Kind of stopped taking kind of core Fourth Amendment cases. Is this a search? Is this a let's apply the CATS test type cases? And you've speculated about this a little bit. I think we've talked about your speculation on the show, but now we get to talk with you about it directly. So why do you think that is going on?