Dan Epps

Two-and-a-half-month delay? It was a long delay. It was September to December. Yeah, yeah, okay. You had people lamenting the death of the podcast to you just on the assumption that it was clearly over. But it is not. And in fact, we have a couple of live shows coming up, believe it or not. We are going to Stanford in less than two weeks. I'm excited.

We were speaking to a class there, but we also were squeezing in a live show. And I think we're headed to Northwestern, your neck of the woods, a little bit later this spring. So we are still active. Active and traveling. Yeah, so some things to catch up on. Quick one, actually got a couple emails as well as a voicemail about this. So maybe, Will, you could listen to the voicemail.

We were speaking to a class there, but we also were squeezing in a live show. And I think we're headed to Northwestern, your neck of the woods, a little bit later this spring. So we are still active. Active and traveling. Yeah, so some things to catch up on. Quick one, actually got a couple emails as well as a voicemail about this. So maybe, Will, you could listen to the voicemail.

I'm not sure you listen to these until I queue them up for you, but it's in our shared folder called voicemails.

I'm not sure you listen to these until I queue them up for you, but it's in our shared folder called voicemails.

Hey, just a listener calling in. It's been two years since Will said that we would know within two years. It's now January 2025, and we're supposed to know who leaked the DevOps decision by now, and otherwise, I believe Dan may owe him or maybe owe it a dinner. So I wanted to flag that for you all. Take care. Bye.

Hey, just a listener calling in. It's been two years since Will said that we would know within two years. It's now January 2025, and we're supposed to know who leaked the DevOps decision by now, and otherwise, I believe Dan may owe him or maybe owe it a dinner. So I wanted to flag that for you all. Take care. Bye.

And so just as an example of how close attention our listeners are paying, we actually got Two emails from listeners Ryan McLaughlin and Isaac Legrand with the same reminder, which I surely had forgotten. I remember that we had that conversation in general and that you had predicted that the name of the leaker would be known, but I didn't remember the specifics.

And so just as an example of how close attention our listeners are paying, we actually got Two emails from listeners Ryan McLaughlin and Isaac Legrand with the same reminder, which I surely had forgotten. I remember that we had that conversation in general and that you had predicted that the name of the leaker would be known, but I didn't remember the specifics.

So I guess I'm going to cash that in shortly, maybe when I'm up in Chicago.

So I guess I'm going to cash that in shortly, maybe when I'm up in Chicago.

I might still be able to prevail. Yeah, I'm just wondering whether you have enough strings in the conservative legal firm I'm at to make the disclosure public in the next two weeks so that you can save face. I do think it's plausible that we'll get one of these tell-all books that we get every few years about the court that will contain some more details. I imagine...

I might still be able to prevail. Yeah, I'm just wondering whether you have enough strings in the conservative legal firm I'm at to make the disclosure public in the next two weeks so that you can save face. I do think it's plausible that we'll get one of these tell-all books that we get every few years about the court that will contain some more details. I imagine...

that a journalist is not going to be willing to actually use somebody's name for fear of liability.

that a journalist is not going to be willing to actually use somebody's name for fear of liability.

But we may get, I can imagine getting a book that has a kind of detailed TikTok play-by-play, not TikTok in the other sense of the word, how it all went down and say the justices became convinced it was a law clerk for justice whoever, or they became convinced it was this person or that person without naming names.

But we may get, I can imagine getting a book that has a kind of detailed TikTok play-by-play, not TikTok in the other sense of the word, how it all went down and say the justices became convinced it was a law clerk for justice whoever, or they became convinced it was this person or that person without naming names.

It's kind of a binary. It's not really a direction kind of bet.

It's kind of a binary. It's not really a direction kind of bet.

Well, I do think it's one plausible path in addition to the book expose path is in some number of years someone comes forward and writes the New York Times op-ed. I was the leaker. Yes, I agree. And I don't know who – I actually am not clued in enough on the behind-the-scenes gossip to know who this person is that the justice is. Or Justice Alito thinks it is.