Dan Farah

Because one day, one of his colleagues walked into his office and said, hey, I got to show you something and pulled him into a skiff and showed him a video that Air Force security guards had taken on a nuclear base of a triangle craft hovering above a nuclear weapon site and moving in ways that nothing does.

And so-

They asked him, please tell us this is one of ours.

He had been read in on all the black programs developing advanced next-gen technology for space and air.

He was read in on those so that he could identify things that are ours versus things that are unknowns or potential threats.

And it was clear to him that it wasn't.

So that same guy ends up, you know, putting together OSAP with Jim McCaskey, which starts investigating this stuff.

And then eventually that same guy runs the investigation of the Tic Tac.

And there's just no way we didn't, we didn't have that technology.

Go back to Tic Tac.

In 2004, if let's say I saw the conspiracy theory online, somebody claimed that that was Lockheed Martin technology.

All right, if Lockheed Martin in 2004 had technology that could go from sea level to 80,000 feet, which is what the Tic Tac did, that's when you get into space, 80,000 feet, right?

If they had technology that could go from sea level to space in like the blink of an eye,

and then do that all afternoon, they would be the most valuable company on the planet right now, 20 years later.

Yes.

It is impossible to accept the idea that they cracked that technology.

If they were publicly public.

They're not even in the top 100 market cap

in the United States, much less the world.

Right.