Dan Flores

Then the last thing that I dealt with was this distinction, and it really becomes a distinction after Europeans arrive, in how native people and native religions viewed their relationship with other animals. They continued to think of themselves, and I think this is a very old human idea. I think it goes back beyond Neanderthals, maybe far back in our history where we considered ourselves

Then the last thing that I dealt with was this distinction, and it really becomes a distinction after Europeans arrive, in how native people and native religions viewed their relationship with other animals. They continued to think of themselves, and I think this is a very old human idea. I think it goes back beyond Neanderthals, maybe far back in our history where we considered ourselves

Then the last thing that I dealt with was this distinction, and it really becomes a distinction after Europeans arrive, in how native people and native religions viewed their relationship with other animals. They continued to think of themselves, and I think this is a very old human idea. I think it goes back beyond Neanderthals, maybe far back in our history where we considered ourselves

to be kin, to come from the same sources, same origins as other creatures. And so that kinship idea, sort of with the idea that other creatures were, they had families, they were just like us. In fact, you could even, some people could even go back and forth from being bears to people. And

to be kin, to come from the same sources, same origins as other creatures. And so that kinship idea, sort of with the idea that other creatures were, they had families, they were just like us. In fact, you could even, some people could even go back and forth from being bears to people. And

to be kin, to come from the same sources, same origins as other creatures. And so that kinship idea, sort of with the idea that other creatures were, they had families, they were just like us. In fact, you could even, some people could even go back and forth from being bears to people. And

That sort of belief system about animals as being kin is strikingly different from the one that Europeans bring to bear because they arrive with the idea that humans are completely exceptional. We are above everything else and all the other creatures on earth were placed here by a deity for us to use. And so we stand in one spot and everything else stands in a lower position.

That sort of belief system about animals as being kin is strikingly different from the one that Europeans bring to bear because they arrive with the idea that humans are completely exceptional. We are above everything else and all the other creatures on earth were placed here by a deity for us to use. And so we stand in one spot and everything else stands in a lower position.

That sort of belief system about animals as being kin is strikingly different from the one that Europeans bring to bear because they arrive with the idea that humans are completely exceptional. We are above everything else and all the other creatures on earth were placed here by a deity for us to use. And so we stand in one spot and everything else stands in a lower position.

And that distinction, I think, probably has some role to play in trying to explain this. But as I said, you have to operate from the premise that here's the evidence. When Europeans arrive, the place looks pretty damned healthy. It looks like it's got the pretty full complement for the previous 10,000 years of all the animals and birds and fishes that were there 10,000 years before.

And that distinction, I think, probably has some role to play in trying to explain this. But as I said, you have to operate from the premise that here's the evidence. When Europeans arrive, the place looks pretty damned healthy. It looks like it's got the pretty full complement for the previous 10,000 years of all the animals and birds and fishes that were there 10,000 years before.

And that distinction, I think, probably has some role to play in trying to explain this. But as I said, you have to operate from the premise that here's the evidence. When Europeans arrive, the place looks pretty damned healthy. It looks like it's got the pretty full complement for the previous 10,000 years of all the animals and birds and fishes that were there 10,000 years before.

Belief systems. Yeah.

Belief systems. Yeah.

Belief systems. Yeah.

Yeah, well, I think it's more gradual, and there is a progression from that, and there's no doubt that not long ago in Western Europe, 1500 years, maybe. Certainly, for areas like, say, Scotland, Ireland, outback regions of Germany and France, people are still, you know, the Druids are still considered to be, they're not only non-Christian, but they're considered to be nature worshipers. Oh, okay.

Yeah, well, I think it's more gradual, and there is a progression from that, and there's no doubt that not long ago in Western Europe, 1500 years, maybe. Certainly, for areas like, say, Scotland, Ireland, outback regions of Germany and France, people are still, you know, the Druids are still considered to be, they're not only non-Christian, but they're considered to be nature worshipers. Oh, okay.

Yeah, well, I think it's more gradual, and there is a progression from that, and there's no doubt that not long ago in Western Europe, 1500 years, maybe. Certainly, for areas like, say, Scotland, Ireland, outback regions of Germany and France, people are still, you know, the Druids are still considered to be, they're not only non-Christian, but they're considered to be nature worshipers. Oh, okay.

And so, I mean, that's— 1,500 years ago. Yeah, that's still evident at a time when Christianity is attempting to convert all these outback pockets of Europe. But even by that point 1,500 years ago, say the Vikings, for example, some of those Viking groups share this idea that they are related still to— to deities that are found in mountains and to various animals.

And so, I mean, that's— 1,500 years ago. Yeah, that's still evident at a time when Christianity is attempting to convert all these outback pockets of Europe. But even by that point 1,500 years ago, say the Vikings, for example, some of those Viking groups share this idea that they are related still to— to deities that are found in mountains and to various animals.