Dan Flores

But he was honest.

And one of the things that I think is important about that is that from the Curtis perspective and many of the people who bought Curtis's books, Native people were a vanishing race.

Right.

And for Vino Rice, they weren't vanishing at all.

They were simply segueing into 20th century America.

Right.

They'll disappear.

Yeah, it takes a German coming over and because, I think because he was very sympathetic and he treated his subjects, the people he was painting,

As real human beings, which, of course, they reciprocated with him.

I mean, it became important to him to portray them realistically and honestly rather than to try to do what the Great Northern Railroad wanted, which was to keep putting bonnets on them and acting as if they were still buffalo hunters because, of course, that was what worked for tourism on the rail line.

Yeah.

So it's an interesting time in the story of the West because this magical thing of the frontier is over.

But the West is, as I tried to say in the beginning, the West is not like, say, the Civil War, which comes to an end.

The West is a place.

And so it continues to have a story and a history forward into time.

And

That becomes, to me, as fascinating as the time in the previous century.

Well, thanks, Dan.

You bet, Randall.

Thanks.