Dan Flores

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Gunfighters · Ep. 39: The River That Flowed From Nowhere, Part II | The American West · 28 Jul 2026 podcast

The two expeditions that were sent out to stop Lewis and Clark turned around and returned before they ever got to the Missouri.

But the Red River, it was close, and so they managed to pull it off.

Yeah.

One of the early episodes of the podcast was on this.

I think I called it bringing home.

All the Pretty Horses, and it was out of a piece of Wild New World that I'd written about the horse trade.

And there's also actually a chapter in American Serengeti with that title.

So in contrast to the northern west, where the fur trade is the predominant sort of extractionist kind of trade that

Americans are interested in with the fur trade companies and with mountain men and all that on the southern prairies and in the southern in this canyon country where I have Freeman and Custis going.

The primary animal that interests Americans with an eye on making money out of the West is the wild horse.

And the reason they're interested in these horses is because, for one thing, the horses are basically running free on the plains.

All you have to do is just capture them or trade for them from the Indians.

And the Comanches and groups like that are big traders of horses to Americans who go west.

But the desire for horses, the market for them back home is from the advancing American frontier across the south and the Midwest.

As the frontier advances, they simply don't have enough horses.

And so a horse trade begins here.

Actually, before the fur trade ever does in the northern west, it begins as early as 1790, long before Lewis and Clark ever go up the Missouri River.

A horse trader named Philip Nolan is going west from Natchez, Mississippi and going out onto the plains in this country that I'm describing today.

that Freeman and Custis explore, and trading for horses and capturing horses.

And so it becomes the primary commercial kind of animal from the whole southern plains and southwest for the period really from about 1790 up until essentially the middle of the 19th century.

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