Dan Fogelman

With all the women, they'd come after Chrissy about Toby. They'd come after Sterling Times about Beth. You know what I mean? It was interesting to me always that...

With all the women, they'd come after Chrissy about Toby. They'd come after Sterling Times about Beth. You know what I mean? It was interesting to me always that...

With all the women, they'd come after Chrissy about Toby. They'd come after Sterling Times about Beth. You know what I mean? It was interesting to me always that...

I think part of it too is there's so few... people had a reaction to Milo in that role. So that's part of it that you cannot just like, he was just so good in it that you can't discard it.

I think part of it too is there's so few... people had a reaction to Milo in that role. So that's part of it that you cannot just like, he was just so good in it that you can't discard it.

I think part of it too is there's so few... people had a reaction to Milo in that role. So that's part of it that you cannot just like, he was just so good in it that you can't discard it.

And his butt. And all the men in the show, all four of them, or five of them were kind of, I think there was something, there's a lot of anti-hero men on TV and there's a lot of like sitcom dads, right? But like the fundamentally decent man who's deeply flawed, but is trying to be good was like a sweet spot we hit on the show with all five of our dudes, which are like, these are good people.

And his butt. And all the men in the show, all four of them, or five of them were kind of, I think there was something, there's a lot of anti-hero men on TV and there's a lot of like sitcom dads, right? But like the fundamentally decent man who's deeply flawed, but is trying to be good was like a sweet spot we hit on the show with all five of our dudes, which are like, these are good people.

And his butt. And all the men in the show, all four of them, or five of them were kind of, I think there was something, there's a lot of anti-hero men on TV and there's a lot of like sitcom dads, right? But like the fundamentally decent man who's deeply flawed, but is trying to be good was like a sweet spot we hit on the show with all five of our dudes, which are like, these are good people.

You would frame them all as good people who are really fucked up and flawed in a multitude of ways, big and small. but they're all desperate to be good. And I think the television landscape is littered with those type of guys, whether it's like Kyle Chandler in Friday Night Light, you know what I mean? And they're few and far between because so often it's the anti-hero.

You would frame them all as good people who are really fucked up and flawed in a multitude of ways, big and small. but they're all desperate to be good. And I think the television landscape is littered with those type of guys, whether it's like Kyle Chandler in Friday Night Light, you know what I mean? And they're few and far between because so often it's the anti-hero.

You would frame them all as good people who are really fucked up and flawed in a multitude of ways, big and small. but they're all desperate to be good. And I think the television landscape is littered with those type of guys, whether it's like Kyle Chandler in Friday Night Light, you know what I mean? And they're few and far between because so often it's the anti-hero.

But it's even why people like James Gandolfini in The Sopranos, I mean, he was a violent mobster, but at his heart, he just wanted to be the dad who tended to the ducks in his backyard. So even that- It's like people just need a kernel of somebody trying to be decent to really fall in love. And then it's just the right actor in the right part. Yeah.

But it's even why people like James Gandolfini in The Sopranos, I mean, he was a violent mobster, but at his heart, he just wanted to be the dad who tended to the ducks in his backyard. So even that- It's like people just need a kernel of somebody trying to be decent to really fall in love. And then it's just the right actor in the right part. Yeah.

But it's even why people like James Gandolfini in The Sopranos, I mean, he was a violent mobster, but at his heart, he just wanted to be the dad who tended to the ducks in his backyard. So even that- It's like people just need a kernel of somebody trying to be decent to really fall in love. And then it's just the right actor in the right part. Yeah.

Blue Real Day Camp. That's funny.

Blue Real Day Camp. That's funny.

Blue Real Day Camp. That's funny.

No. No. I wish I could say they were. So wait, tell us about this camp.

No. No. I wish I could say they were. So wait, tell us about this camp.