The Night We Lost Jack Pearson | "Super Bowl Sunday" (S2E14) with special guest Dan Fogelman
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What episode are we discussing today?
On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 14, Super Bowl Sunday. On the 20th anniversary of Jack's death, Randall hosts a Super Bowl party. Kevin, Kate, and Rebecca share their memories of this day and how they've been coping since.
Who is the special guest on this episode?
Hello, friends.
What's going on? How's everybody doing today? Well, how are you?
We have a special guest.
We have a special guest, everybody. You guys know Mandy, Chris, myself, Sterling, but do you know the man who created the show? Mr. Dan Fogelman, everyone.
Everybody stop. He's back. I can't believe you guys have a live audience now. This is amazing.
We've grown up so much since you were last on. So, full disclosure, we were going to try to do this episode a few times before. We thought about doing it with just ourselves. And then we said, man, we had to hold on to this secret for such a long time and tease it out. Do you know how Jack passed away? Yes, we know how Jack passed away. People had all these sorts of theories about it. It didn't feel right to not do it without the man who built up to this moment. So, Fogman, thanks for joining us once again. We appreciate having You okay? You look good. Thanks. He's got his paradise hat on. I just realized. I appreciate that. I'm coming from work, so I didn't even know. Cross promotion.
What were the challenges of keeping Jack's death a secret?
It's all paradise hats. Can we get paradise hats?
I can get you a paradise hat. Great. Cool. No worries. No worries. So we're talking about 214. It's the fire. We talked a little bit about it with John and Glenn, who also directed the episode. But talk to us in terms of like... You're known now at this point in time of sort of like building suspense, the turns, the twist, et cetera, and sort of keeping people on the edge of their seat. What was it like holding on to the secret? Like this is one of the first red scripts that we had in terms of like people not like copying or whatnot, like all of what went into keeping the secret as long as you did.
Yeah, I mean, it was a lot. It was a lot on our writers, I think, and the people that were constantly in charge of distributing scripts. We were so anxious back then. In retrospect, it was probably a little silly. I don't know what we were worried was going to happen that one of the few people who had access to it was going to put it on the internet. I guess that's what we were worried about. I'm less worried about it now because it's like everything's out there all the time. And so I just remember boards were constantly going down. Our writer's assistants were constantly taking pictures of things. We started realizing that every time we left our office, we were leaving the cards out everywhere that said what happened in the show.
And there were tour groups coming through, and that started freaking everybody out.
Yes. Isaac and Elizabeth told us that.
They're bringing tours through the writer's room.
And they're like peeking the windows, like encouraging people to go like peer in the writer's room.
Were they peering or were they bringing them inside? I don't think people were coming inside.
I don't think they could go inside the office. But you know, those places are like, the temperature control in those places is terrible in those offices. So we're always having the windows open or closed depending on how hot or freezing it was in there. Because it was from 1892. Yeah, and so we were sitting and taking such great care to protect the secrets and then realized there were tour groups just driving by with the windows open that could look right in the window and see everything.
You had to be like a hawk in order to read everything.
It was more, we just really built it out. We knew from the very beginning in those first couple of weeks that it was going to be a house fire, that he wasn't going to die in the house fire, that he was going to die from the after effects of it, that those after effects were going to have been caused by going back in for the family dog. So we knew all that. And then it was just really a matter of like parsing it out and making sure everything we told up until that point had been delivered at the right time and the right way. And just, it's kind of easy when you know the end. Like it's not as hard as it seems.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What episode are we discussing today?
0:12–0:33
2
Who is the special guest on this episode?
0:33–1:34
3
What were the challenges of keeping Jack's death a secret?
1:34–5:36
4
What was the significance of the Super Bowl for this episode?
5:36–7:30
5
How does the episode depict the fire incident?
7:30–9:50
6
What emotional moments stand out in the episode?
9:50–12:59
7
What is the impact of Jack's death on the characters?
12:59–1:31:47