Dan Fogelman
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160 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Mar 2025
Dan Fogelman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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With all the women, they'd come after Chrissy about Toby. They'd come after Sterling Times about Beth. You know what I mean? It was interesting to me always that...
I think part of it too is there's so few... people had a reaction to Milo in that role. So that's part of it that you cannot just like, he was just so good in it that you can't discard it.
And his butt. And all the men in the show, all four of them, or five of them were kind of, I think there was something, there's a lot of anti-hero men on TV and there's a lot of like sitcom dads, right? But like the fundamentally decent man who's deeply flawed, but is trying to be good was like a sweet spot we hit on the show with all five of our dudes, which are like, these are good people.
You would frame them all as good people who are really fucked up and flawed in a multitude of ways, big and small. but they're all desperate to be good. And I think the television landscape is littered with those type of guys, whether it's like Kyle Chandler in Friday Night Light, you know what I mean? And they're few and far between because so often it's the anti-hero.
But it's even why people like James Gandolfini in The Sopranos, I mean, he was a violent mobster, but at his heart, he just wanted to be the dad who tended to the ducks in his backyard. So even that- It's like people just need a kernel of somebody trying to be decent to really fall in love. And then it's just the right actor in the right part. Yeah.
Blue Real Day Camp. That's funny.
No. No. I wish I could say they were. So wait, tell us about this camp.
there were people who dressed up like clowns at the morning assembly. I'm trying to remember that part. A lot of clowns today. It wasn't like I went to a clown camp.
There's a lot of Matrix-style repercussions to Lester Stallone being in the episode. We talked about it a lot and just went with it. Yeah, just went with it. When we did that episode, I got to go to Sly's house to woo him. We got an entry point through Milo. Basically, I think he agreed to do it because he loved Milo, even though he wasn't going to really have scenes with him in it.
And his whole family and like kind of support stuff at his house as I was walking in was a really big deal because they were all watching This Is Us at the time. And I think they, it was unclear that how familiar he was with the show, but I think he wanted to do it to like make his family happy. And it was like a very cool meeting of like driving up to Sylvester Stallone's house.
It was like sitting in the house, like talking to him about doing This Is Us was like really cool. That was a really cool moment.
I miss the show, and I miss doing that show. I mean, it was so soulfully deep and important to me that... You know, like there's a difference between taking a scene in another project and say, here's something intimate from my life or my life experience. And I want that to frame a scene in the show. It's like something I always try and do.
When you're actually able to say, here's something intimate from my life. And then I'm going to actually execute that directly into a show without like, not just the themes of it or the exploration, but like. I'm gonna like take this episode we just did and like every single character's exploring like immediate grief in a very different way, right?
And that was like all the things I've gone through at multiple like losses in my life. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna be able to do it directly, like in a hospital scene with a family. And so I missed that. Is it cathartic? It did it at the time. I think in retrospect, I rarely look back at the show. This morning I was rushing here and I wanted to like reorient myself to the episode.
So I kind of watched the first 20 minutes and the last 10. i rarely watch the show but it it is like it you know i don't know how much longer like i do this or how many more shows and films i'll make but this will always be like like it's a it was a you know up until i was 45 years old this is a it's like a screenshot of my life experience in one TV show.
And all the people's experience who made it, but like it's the closest, it's the closest, I won't trump, you know what I mean, doing that show because it was like, it was just writing about my life. Sign us off, so.
Yes.
Oh, I can't wait to hear this.
Dan does get excited because he would do that throughout the course of the show too. He's like, oh, I got to show you the scene with Susan and Sterling. He would just invite people into his office or whatever.
Yeah, like misunderstood, for sure, I think.
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