Dan Hodges

This is also where I agree with Julia.

That, however, does not mean that any of the myriad problems that we're all aware of and that you've articulated obviously on this programme and will continue to articulate suddenly magically go when Keir Starmer goes and Andy Burnham, if it is Andy Burnham, comes in.

But all I'm saying is,

I don't think it is right to say, look, he didn't say anything about what he was going to do in government in the makefield by election.

So it's because he hasn't got a clue what he's going to do.

I think that's too simplistic a criticism.

I mean, again, I think that's an example of what I'm talking about.

So we've already got, you know,

Andy Burnham has been an MP, I think, for like, what, five hours now, five or six hours now.

Julia was already criticising him for it, for the fact that he's appointing Ed Miliband as his chancellor.

I've seen Ed Miliband touted as his chancellor.

I've also, and I've written it myself, I've also seen it touted that he may, and I think this chills, this terrifies me even more frankly, that he may well retain Rachel Reeves as his chancellor to reassure the markets.

I've seen people talk, I've seen reports that Yvette Cooper might be his chancellor.

I saw a report that Lou Hay was gonna be his chancellor.

Now, I am not saying for a moment that if Ed Miliband is brought in as Chancellor, all of Britain's problems will be solved.

But what I am saying is, once again, the criticism of Andy Burnham

is a criticism that is not at the moment rooted in anything that Andy Burnham has actually said or done or even close, come even, even, even close.

Look, I'm in danger of slipping into sort of becoming Andy Burnham spokesman on this programme, but let me try.

That's why we brought you on.

Let me articulate it in a sort of a broader context and one that I think we will all grasp.