Dan Houser

And that became, you know, we both like Diet Coke and pizza.

Very video game developer.

And that became good luck.

And we'd have these good writing sessions.

We realized we got on well with each other.

and we had a similar sense of humor and we could write the stuff and then he would do all of the real work producing it so it was perfect for me because i got to outsource most of the real work and he's a brilliant radio producer um so he was a great partner in that way and then that was how that relationship began and then i'd get him i say well we've got to record these 80 voices come and help me because i can't direct 80 people at once so he would help with that process and he was a really good producer like audio like getting bodies in produce as well as a technical producer

So he was just, that was the beginning of that relationship.

And it was always, my job was to ensure the media content felt like it reflected the tone of the world and we would write it together.

Then his job was just to make sure it sounded funny.

Like he would just produce it in a really funny way.

Yeah, and the rule was when he was the character, I would write the first pass of him.

And I would get nastier and nastier over time.

Yeah, that's awesome.

So to the point where he's having his head shaved and, you know, being punished by everybody.

But even in game after game, he got worse.

He began as this quite, in GTA 3, he's a quite likable character.

And then, you know, over the next...

12 13 years it just got worse and worse so i think he's glad not to be doing that anymore but he did it with great grace he's just a great partner because he likes he like you know like me we just like making stuff he likes to make stuff he likes to work in new spaces he's been a great help on bringing the comic book to life doing a lot of the work on that he's working on that right now um and just he's really fun to work with and he's you know always will put creativity first

And he's ridiculous.

In the best possible way, yeah.