Dan Levy

But I always think when there's a real success that is part of the community, like, that is a win for all of us.

I think it's because we're still under the, it's like a lot of my actress friends say that some of the worst moments in their lives where they felt the worst came from other women.

And you look at a cultural, I think it's a cultural thing.

I think we are indoctrinated to believe that there's only so many spaces

for people who are not straight and white and male.

And so everyone else has kind of grown up with this sort of belief that like, if I happen to make it, it's against the odds and I don't want to lose that.

I have to believe that it's a part of that, which is why I have a lot of empathy for it because I think, well, this is all part of...

the culture being marginalized is this belief that like, I'm going to start to feel insecure if someone like me succeeds and it's not me.

No, no, I, I just, for me, it's always about like, tell the story, focus on the story.

It's the, it's what worked for me on shits.

I never thought about the audience.

I never thought about other people's expectations.

I think the minute a writer's room starts to think about what the audience wants, they lose the plot.

Okay.

Because I think a lot of times what the character wants and needs is

is not what the audience wants for the character.

And it's hard to keep the noise out.

How do you practice that?

You just have to shut it out and care about the story you're telling.

You know what I mean?