Dan Novaes

But then I got into software after that, and there was a whole long story of how we did that. But I think that's where the foundation of entrepreneurship went. And what was going through my head at the time was...

But then I got into software after that, and there was a whole long story of how we did that. But I think that's where the foundation of entrepreneurship went. And what was going through my head at the time was...

But then I got into software after that, and there was a whole long story of how we did that. But I think that's where the foundation of entrepreneurship went. And what was going through my head at the time was...

you know uh that this was like for me you know i didn't know uh i didn't want to work a regular job you know and i really came to that realization probably like my sophomore junior year of college where it confirmed after like two internships that it just wasn't made uh for me i guess

you know uh that this was like for me you know i didn't know uh i didn't want to work a regular job you know and i really came to that realization probably like my sophomore junior year of college where it confirmed after like two internships that it just wasn't made uh for me i guess

you know uh that this was like for me you know i didn't know uh i didn't want to work a regular job you know and i really came to that realization probably like my sophomore junior year of college where it confirmed after like two internships that it just wasn't made uh for me i guess

Honestly, dude, the way that happened, it was like, I don't know. Oftentimes, the worst things in your life are usually the best things for you, I guess. So at the time, I did a bunch of different businesses in college while running this company. I had a screen printing business. I had started a college music website before Spotify.

Honestly, dude, the way that happened, it was like, I don't know. Oftentimes, the worst things in your life are usually the best things for you, I guess. So at the time, I did a bunch of different businesses in college while running this company. I had a screen printing business. I had started a college music website before Spotify.

Honestly, dude, the way that happened, it was like, I don't know. Oftentimes, the worst things in your life are usually the best things for you, I guess. So at the time, I did a bunch of different businesses in college while running this company. I had a screen printing business. I had started a college music website before Spotify.

And you're getting about a million people a month listening to my music playlist. I wasn't making a ton of money, though, but right around this time, I remember I was sleeping. It was fine. My warehouse, I get an email from our worker there and the warehouse was robbed. I didn't have any insurance on it or anything. I didn't have credit or anything. So this is all my money.

And you're getting about a million people a month listening to my music playlist. I wasn't making a ton of money, though, but right around this time, I remember I was sleeping. It was fine. My warehouse, I get an email from our worker there and the warehouse was robbed. I didn't have any insurance on it or anything. I didn't have credit or anything. So this is all my money.

And you're getting about a million people a month listening to my music playlist. I wasn't making a ton of money, though, but right around this time, I remember I was sleeping. It was fine. My warehouse, I get an email from our worker there and the warehouse was robbed. I didn't have any insurance on it or anything. I didn't have credit or anything. So this is all my money.

I mean, it wasn't all my money, but I'm saying it's probably like 70% of my money. And apparently there was... a FedEx guy that then, you know, and then this warehouse got robbed in the UK and he was so apologetic, but really there was no recourse. Right. And I remember thinking to myself, man, I just like wiped out like 70% of everything I've ever worked for.

I mean, it wasn't all my money, but I'm saying it's probably like 70% of my money. And apparently there was... a FedEx guy that then, you know, and then this warehouse got robbed in the UK and he was so apologetic, but really there was no recourse. Right. And I remember thinking to myself, man, I just like wiped out like 70% of everything I've ever worked for.

I mean, it wasn't all my money, but I'm saying it's probably like 70% of my money. And apparently there was... a FedEx guy that then, you know, and then this warehouse got robbed in the UK and he was so apologetic, but really there was no recourse. Right. And I remember thinking to myself, man, I just like wiped out like 70% of everything I've ever worked for.

At the time I'm now living in Chicago, I'm 22 years old. I just have graduated. And I was like, how do I prevent this from happening? I was like, what a hassle. Cause like, you know, the thing with electronics is you might do a lot of revenue, but your margins, like maybe 10%, you know, 10, 15%, you're not making a lot of money on the stuff. Um, and so that was a huge hit to me.

At the time I'm now living in Chicago, I'm 22 years old. I just have graduated. And I was like, how do I prevent this from happening? I was like, what a hassle. Cause like, you know, the thing with electronics is you might do a lot of revenue, but your margins, like maybe 10%, you know, 10, 15%, you're not making a lot of money on the stuff. Um, and so that was a huge hit to me.

At the time I'm now living in Chicago, I'm 22 years old. I just have graduated. And I was like, how do I prevent this from happening? I was like, what a hassle. Cause like, you know, the thing with electronics is you might do a lot of revenue, but your margins, like maybe 10%, you know, 10, 15%, you're not making a lot of money on the stuff. Um, and so that was a huge hit to me.

And so I was like, well, if I do software, not thinking about hackers, right. But I was just like, if I do software, that would not be possible. Right. And so at the time it was kind of like, um, the iPhone was starting to get really big app store was getting really big. We, a lot of the traffic that we were having on our site was on desktop. So I was like, Oh, I should make an iPhone app.

And so I was like, well, if I do software, not thinking about hackers, right. But I was just like, if I do software, that would not be possible. Right. And so at the time it was kind of like, um, the iPhone was starting to get really big app store was getting really big. We, a lot of the traffic that we were having on our site was on desktop. So I was like, Oh, I should make an iPhone app.