Dan Novaes

And so I was like, well, if I do software, not thinking about hackers, right. But I was just like, if I do software, that would not be possible. Right. And so at the time it was kind of like, um, the iPhone was starting to get really big app store was getting really big. We, a lot of the traffic that we were having on our site was on desktop. So I was like, Oh, I should make an iPhone app.

Um, and you know, I actually, uh, went on Fiverr. Uh, if you, you know, if you know the website where you can get anything for five bucks, um, found someone that had posted a listing that was like, Hey, I'll make an app for five bucks. Uh, so it sounds very promising, you know, definitely. Uh, but I hit him, hit him up and was like, Hey, this is what I want.

Um, and you know, I actually, uh, went on Fiverr. Uh, if you, you know, if you know the website where you can get anything for five bucks, um, found someone that had posted a listing that was like, Hey, I'll make an app for five bucks. Uh, so it sounds very promising, you know, definitely. Uh, but I hit him, hit him up and was like, Hey, this is what I want.

Um, and you know, I actually, uh, went on Fiverr. Uh, if you, you know, if you know the website where you can get anything for five bucks, um, found someone that had posted a listing that was like, Hey, I'll make an app for five bucks. Uh, so it sounds very promising, you know, definitely. Uh, but I hit him, hit him up and was like, Hey, this is what I want.

And then he was like, you know, I can't make that for five bucks, but I'll make it for 85 bucks. I'm like, you know what? That's a great deal. Let's do it. Um, was like, you know, didn't really have any expectation for it. Six weeks later, you know, we're Skype friends at this point in time. I get an app and the app actually works. Not the best app I've ever seen.

And then he was like, you know, I can't make that for five bucks, but I'll make it for 85 bucks. I'm like, you know what? That's a great deal. Let's do it. Um, was like, you know, didn't really have any expectation for it. Six weeks later, you know, we're Skype friends at this point in time. I get an app and the app actually works. Not the best app I've ever seen.

And then he was like, you know, I can't make that for five bucks, but I'll make it for 85 bucks. I'm like, you know what? That's a great deal. Let's do it. Um, was like, you know, didn't really have any expectation for it. Six weeks later, you know, we're Skype friends at this point in time. I get an app and the app actually works. Not the best app I've ever seen.

I post them on the app store and we send it out to the audience. And I made like 10 grand, right? In like three days. I was like, this is insane. We're turned on investment.

I post them on the app store and we send it out to the audience. And I made like 10 grand, right? In like three days. I was like, this is insane. We're turned on investment.

I post them on the app store and we send it out to the audience. And I made like 10 grand, right? In like three days. I was like, this is insane. We're turned on investment.

Um, so initially it was supposed to play music as like a music streaming app, but he didn't know how to do that. So what it did is it preloaded 10 songs and then it was like, um, you know, that game that you would play on, um, you know, you're kind of like Microsoft where it's like, it's like a little puzzle and you've got to clean up the puzzle. So it's like a picture that's all broken. Right.

Um, so initially it was supposed to play music as like a music streaming app, but he didn't know how to do that. So what it did is it preloaded 10 songs and then it was like, um, you know, that game that you would play on, um, you know, you're kind of like Microsoft where it's like, it's like a little puzzle and you've got to clean up the puzzle. So it's like a picture that's all broken. Right.

Um, so initially it was supposed to play music as like a music streaming app, but he didn't know how to do that. So what it did is it preloaded 10 songs and then it was like, um, you know, that game that you would play on, um, you know, you're kind of like Microsoft where it's like, it's like a little puzzle and you've got to clean up the puzzle. So it's like a picture that's all broken. Right.

It's like early PC days. Anyways, that's all it did. And it had like, you know, 20 of the favorite songs of the songs that people liked. And they were just kind of like, you know, kind of like a stupid game that was in there that was kind of like a hybrid of the music and game. Very simple. And but honestly, you know, had made that 10k very quickly and was every day making a couple hundred bucks.

It's like early PC days. Anyways, that's all it did. And it had like, you know, 20 of the favorite songs of the songs that people liked. And they were just kind of like, you know, kind of like a stupid game that was in there that was kind of like a hybrid of the music and game. Very simple. And but honestly, you know, had made that 10k very quickly and was every day making a couple hundred bucks.

It's like early PC days. Anyways, that's all it did. And it had like, you know, 20 of the favorite songs of the songs that people liked. And they were just kind of like, you know, kind of like a stupid game that was in there that was kind of like a hybrid of the music and game. Very simple. And but honestly, you know, had made that 10k very quickly and was every day making a couple hundred bucks.

I'm like, dude, I'm making more money on this. And I did this with a guy from Fiverr, who I turns out, you know, is my co founder still to this day. It turns out it was a 17-year-old kid in high school that was about to graduate high school in the UK. And he was on Fiverr because it was his first ever project.

I'm like, dude, I'm making more money on this. And I did this with a guy from Fiverr, who I turns out, you know, is my co founder still to this day. It turns out it was a 17-year-old kid in high school that was about to graduate high school in the UK. And he was on Fiverr because it was his first ever project.

I'm like, dude, I'm making more money on this. And I did this with a guy from Fiverr, who I turns out, you know, is my co founder still to this day. It turns out it was a 17-year-old kid in high school that was about to graduate high school in the UK. And he was on Fiverr because it was his first ever project.

He had just learned a code, didn't really believe in his skills, and just wanted to work on a project. And then I was like, hey, listen, I just graduated. You're about to go to college. Why don't you take a gap year? Come move to Chicago. I was living in Chicago at the time. And I had this idea. We're going to create apps without coding for people. And he did it. Took a gap year and came.