Dan Pfeiffer

I think, one, these are hardcore Trump voters.

They're going to be for whatever Trump is for, right?

And there's a – look, we should also – we have hardcore voters on our side, right?

Like if you look – this is not the same thing.

It's not – so I'm going to stipulate this before I get destroyed for saying it's not the same thing.

But we had people who – like a hardcore supportive number of Democrats –

refuse to acknowledge that Joe Biden was too old.

We had that too, despite that.

We're for our team, whoever our team is.

Now, I think there is a much greater set of hypocrisy in what's happening on the Republican side here.

Yes.

But the thing that, from a purely political perspective, and I'm going to get us to the messaging around this in a minute, but from a purely political perspective,

in terms of like winning races, right?

Taking the majority, winning the electoral college.

We do not care that much that 85% of self-identified MAGA Republicans are with Trump.

Like that is not the issue.

Now, if all of a sudden we want to start competing in North Dakota, we got to get that number to like 65.

But in terms of winning, even winning in Texas, Alaska, Iowa, Ohio, that is a sustainable number.

What we care about are independents who voted for Trump and Republicans who do not identify as MAGA.

Because I think...