Dan Pfeiffer

It's people like, I want you to understand how we see the world.

So when you see what we're saying, you understand from our perspective.

Yeah, you can think it's stupid or wrong or bad or whatever else, but at least you understand what our thought process is.

I think the hard part with the Trump cell phone thing, and this is unique to Trump is,

And you hinted at this, but there is this confusing access with information, which if the president talks to you, but he doesn't tell you anything true.

Yes.

It's like, what is the-

Yeah, that's exactly right.

It is certainly true, and I believe this, that people should take what the president says seriously, even Trump.

And Trump gets away with saying a lot of things because a lot of people in the press don't take him seriously.

I was yelling about this with John yesterday, but Trump said that he believed –

that Iran was about to strike the United States and that they were going to have a nuclear weapon within a short period of time.

That is a lie.

Yeah.

That is not borne out by any of the intelligence.

His own DNI and CIA director would not say that under oath yesterday.

And we just sort of like, ah, Trump says things, you know?

And so there is like, I won't even take it seriously, but it's like, there is something that's like uncomfortable with the breathless, like,

selfie videos reporters are taking, which is like, I just got off the phone with Trump and here's what we told me.

And it's like, well, what's the context for that?